Actual Churches?

Whyte Horse wrote: I think what's important here is the importance of words like important.

Sounds important...

Akkarin wrote:

Whyte Horse wrote: I think what's important here is the importance of words like important.

Sounds important...

Haha. No but seriously...

Suppose, hypothetically, there was a Jedi with no home, no income, no family to stay with, etc. Just a backpack with a few days of clothes. I think this person would feel like it's important to have a physical temple.

On the other hand, suppose another Jedi has a home, a cabin in the woods for a retreat, vacations, plenty of income, local Jedi gatherings, etc. I think this person would feel like it's not important to have a physical temple.

While I'm neither of the those, I share the mindset of Br. John and maybe Annakin that a temple is important as a place where one can live a life as a Jedi, similar to monks and monasteries.

I visited a few Buddhist temples in Thailand and saw some of the important work they do like running schools for orphans, helping the homeless, taking care of abandoned animals, rejuvenating the land, spiritual work, etc.

So is non-important work important?

Why is important important?

Wouldn't society telling us what is important just controling us?

I think being unimportant is important.

I gotta get off the internet. I've got important work to do. :laugh: :woohoo:

Whyte Horse wrote: While I'm neither of the those, I share the mindset of Br. John and maybe Annakin that a temple is important as a place where one can live a life as a Jedi, similar to monks and monasteries.

When you said 'Annakin' did you mean 'Akkarin'? I only ask because it's happened before lol. There was even a thread about it once...

Akkarin wrote:

Whyte Horse wrote: While I'm neither of the those, I share the mindset of Br. John and maybe Annakin that a temple is important as a place where one can live a life as a Jedi, similar to monks and monasteries.

When you said 'Annakin' did you mean 'Akkarin'? I only ask because it's happened before lol. There was even a thread about it once...

Yeah Akkarin... freudian slip, lol

It all starts as a simple "hobby". But the more time, energy and love you invest into that "Jedi thing" and the more qualitiy it gets, the more you realize what all is possible...

Tomorrow I go out to the countryside to check out a small little 100-years-old house with a big wild garden. I wanna buy it and live there, because after several years I know, that I wanna spend much of my lifetime studying, meditating and training. As a Jedi, in my case. But maybe I would be a Buddhist or Taosist else, when there would be no Jediism. I will grow my own food, raise lifestock, repair the house and have a small job to pay taxes and stuff and that give me enough time for walking my path.
I've chosen this simple "monastic" life with 30 years. Still freaks my out when I think ot it, but I long thought about if this is the right thing - and it is.

I do this why there is no real Jedi Temple (in Whyte Horses sense, like a monastary) for Jedi. Maybe my house can be become one of the first "Jedi enclaves" were one or two young studenst can be trained one day.

"That is how crazy I am." :laugh:

Bastian, your talk of the 100-year-old house and wild garden made me think of an important aspect to why "I" am motivated on making a physical "place" (wink) for Jedi.

I too want to have a place where I can spend time studying, meditating and training. But I know how I am. I can't just live indefinitely like that. You know? I feel there needs to be balance between training and action. Using my training for good.

So it seems that a more precise description of what I am looking for, is this. A section of land with basic living quarters and a food supply (like you mentioned), where I can go and have my 'retreat' time for my studies and development with the Force. BUT, have a plan to share it with other like minded Force followers. No "official" association with any one Jedi or non-Jedi group. Just some application process for those who want to come spend time out there too. And of course, maybe offer up the land for Gatherings functions. Think: camping, bond fires, conversations, and don't forget 'obstacle course'! (Maybe this is just a childhood obsession, but the Nasty Nick was pretty awesome!!)

I still feel like some of the other places for training like what are mentioned in the physical temple thread are viable and good ideas. But maybe something more ambiguous like this would be where to start. A stepping stone if you will.

Let's just have a look at the fiction...
Do Jedi live as hermits in the wilderness, with no contact to anyone? Well, if there's an Empire out there trying to kill all Jedi, yes - but usually: no.
Jedi live among other people. How could they serve the greater good wihtout contact to society.

But for a Jedi Order it needs one thing first: Jedi. And (like in the fiction) a comprehensvie and high-quality Jedi training is not compartible with the distractions and restrictions of a conventional life. That's the reason there are monastaries in other religions. That's why I think my house on the countryside will benefit my Jedi path.

You can be a Jediist in internet forums and do lots of good deeds there (like the TOTJO does), the same as you can be a good Christian or Muslim in normal life. But if you want to "shake hands with the Force" and to achieve more professional skills in martial arts, dilpomacy, healing or force powers, you will have to spend more time and energy. That means to sacrifce a conventional life. Especially if you are supposed to achieve many of these skills.
And that's not my solely my opinion - it's a truth of human civilication many thousand years old.

Bastian wrote: Let's just have a look at the fiction...
Do Jedi live as hermits in the wilderness, with no contact to anyone? Well, if there's an Empire out there trying to kill all Jedi, yes - but usually: no.
Jedi live among other people. How could they serve the greater good wihtout contact to society.

But for a Jedi Order it needs one thing first: Jedi. And (like in the fiction) a comprehensvie and high-quality Jedi training is not compartible with the distractions and restrictions of a conventional life. That's the reason there are monastaries in other religions. That's why I think my house on the countryside will benefit my Jedi path.

You can be a Jediist in internet forums and do lots of good deeds there (like the TOTJO does), the same as you can be a good Christian or Muslim in normal life. But if you want to "shake hands with the Force" and to achieve more professional skills in martial arts, dilpomacy, healing or force powers, you will have to spend more time and energy. That means to sacrifce a conventional life. Especially if you are supposed to achieve many of these skills.
And that's not my solely my opinion - it's a truth of human civilication many thousand years old.

The fiction comes from the history. In Thailand they have Buddhist temples everywhere and the monks live there but they go out into the community for most of the day. They would come to the schools for ceremonies a few times a year. They go from temple to temple, some are in the city, some remote. The temples also function as food banks, clothing banks, donation centers, counseling centers, brewery, etc.

All I can suggest is we band together and build, one on second life or some other sort of virtual reality game, so then we will have a place to go to chat, give ceremonies etc in live and in real time.