Actual Churches?

There's 5 acres in west texas for sale for only $1,000. It's very close to big bend national park. I think if a project got started people would be more willing to donate, rather than to just support the website.

Remember websites like kickstarter are very useful,but acquiring land before hand would increase the chances of supporters.

But I agree with Akkarin. The religion needs to be prime before a physical building is made.

Drexid wrote: There's 5 acres in west texas for sale for only $1,000. It's very close to big bend national park. I think if a project got started people would be more willing to donate, rather than to just support the website.

Remember websites like kickstarter are very useful,but acquiring land before hand would increase the chances of supporters.

But I agree with Akkarin. The religion needs to be prime before a physical building is made.

Details?

Akkarin wrote:

Larrus wrote: lol, Whyte Horse, that is an admirable idea, although in the United States, all land is technically under the ownership of the Department of Natural Resources. Staking claim on land is tantamount to stealing from the government.

I think he was joking

I hope he was joking :dry:

But we should assume that no one will give us anything but our own members. That is why in my mind building membership is our most important goal, building membership, improving our training programme, improving our materials and our methods. That is far more important and lasting than a building.

What if our membership has peaked and the only thing that will increase it is a physical temple?

Drexid wrote: There's 5 acres in west texas for sale for only $1,000. It's very close to big bend national park. I think if a project got started people would be more willing to donate, rather than to just support the website.

Remember websites like kickstarter are very useful,but acquiring land before hand would increase the chances of supporters.

But I agree with Akkarin. The religion needs to be prime before a physical building is made.

By far the easiest way is to get something like 5 acres for $1k... but isn't west texas also known as death valley? lol

Drexid wrote: There's 5 acres in west texas for sale for only $1,000.

lol, if land is that cheap then I'll buy us a couple of dozen acres :laugh:

@Whyte, I'm not against having a temple per se. But I find it unlikely that we will need one for a while...

You have to remember that we don't actively go around and recruit anyone and we still manage to expand our membership. The only thing a temple will do is increase the rate of membership. But that is why it is far more important to get the foundations of the Temple as it is now sorted before we undertake projects we don't have the membership to support...

Akkarin wrote:

Drexid wrote: There's 5 acres in west texas for sale for only $1,000.

lol, if land is that cheap then I'll buy us a couple of dozen acres :laugh:

@Whyte, I'm not against having a temple per se. But I find it unlikely that we will need one for a while...

You have to remember that we don't actively go around and recruit anyone and we still manage to expand our membership. The only thing a temple will do is increase the rate of membership. But that is why it is far more important to get the foundations of the Temple as it is now sorted before we undertake projects we don't have the membership to support...

We probably have enough members to support a global headquarters. Maybe you don't need a temple but some of us are fed up with living in an insane society ruled by insane people for insane purposes. I mean is it just me or is it getting old sitting in cubicles, packing on subways, living in hamster cage apartments?

Creating a sacred space is something that is part of every faith. Some do it in their home, a shrine. Some do it in the form of a building, a church or temple. And some do it internally, which is most important.

I am not that afraid as to want to stifle any possible growth through something as average as settling.

I'm in the business of being awesome, of pushing the envelope. Jackie Meyer and other IJRS faculty members are in route (this fall) to move to Denver, Colorado where the planning stages of our Jedi Praxeum will be started. In hopes that in five years, the IJRS will have a physical presence. I'm not sure if I'll become a staff member there any time soon, but I'm already planning a part of my life to spend there. Performance opportunities are abundant there, and my new businesses are easily transferrable.

If TOTJO has ANY inclination to begin a true building place to meet... do it. But, start small. Meet in your home first or your apartment. If you start generating donations... rent a space once or twice a month. Get some more money? Weekly meetings! More money? More sponsorships? Grants? Buy a plot of land then.

The fun part about this? Each and every member of this website could do that. No matter his/her financial situation. I live on a measly 300 dollars a month and a full scholarship to college... Double majoring and minoring. I have found time to meet with a couple of people every once in a while.

I may be starting small, but I'm starting. I'm not content spending the rest of my life on a website training people over text. It's not my style. I want to be out there with the people. Learning and teaching. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And yes, some (or many) people at this site are content with the way things are. And, I am too. This is "enough". But, expansion only spreads the opportunity more. It gives people a chance to immerse themselves in the teachings and practices. It gives touching fellowship. It's traditional and beautiful.

There's nothing wrong with approaching this from that fashion. I hope nobody demonizes that viewpoint. As for foundations, they are certainly there. Maybe not enough to start a worldwide movement. But, to teach a lesson on a wednesday night? A Saturday evening? A sunday morning? To sing a song together in your living room? To practice survival skills on a group camping trip?

I am finished waiting. Things are moving forward and I'm going with them, rather than being a rock slowly eroding because it's lodged to the bottom of a very active river.

Thanks Connor, I agree with most of that but I think people are already doing that. Just looking at meetup.com there are hundreds of Jedi in a couple states. I saw a couple annual gatherings as well. Judging by the google map it looks like the US has large number of Jedi.

I know how some people think it takes X years to start a religion and X years to make a temple and so on but the reality is that we live in the information age where things happen a lot faster. The temple has everything it needs, information-wise. I mean everything is already collected and reviewed, the membership is all online, etc. I don't know what else they need in place? With a few clicks someone could start a kickstarter... With a few weekend trips someone could go buy some land...

I just saw those tiny homes people are building for cheap. It costs like $4k to make one and you can haul it with a truck or UHaul. I think the real thing holding everyone back is some kind of psychological fear of letting go hehe.

Whyte Horse wrote: I just saw those tiny homes people are building for cheap. It costs like $4k to make one and you can haul it with a truck or UHaul. I think the real thing holding everyone back is some kind of psychological fear of letting go hehe.

For me it's an economic fear of living in one of the most residentially expensive places in the world (Britain)

Connor Lidell wrote: Creating a sacred space is something that is part of every faith. Some do it in their home, a shrine. Some do it in the form of a building, a church or temple. And some do it internally, which is most important.

I am not that afraid as to want to stifle any possible growth through something as average as settling.

I'm in the business of being awesome, of pushing the envelope. Jackie Meyer and other IJRS faculty members are in route (this fall) to move to Denver, Colorado where the planning stages of our Jedi Praxeum will be started. In hopes that in five years, the IJRS will have a physical presence. I'm not sure if I'll become a staff member there any time soon, but I'm already planning a part of my life to spend there. Performance opportunities are abundant there, and my new businesses are easily transferrable.

If TOTJO has ANY inclination to begin a true building place to meet... do it. But, start small. Meet in your home first or your apartment. If you start generating donations... rent a space once or twice a month. Get some more money? Weekly meetings! More money? More sponsorships? Grants? Buy a plot of land then.

The fun part about this? Each and every member of this website could do that. No matter his/her financial situation. I live on a measly 300 dollars a month and a full scholarship to college... Double majoring and minoring. I have found time to meet with a couple of people every once in a while.

I may be starting small, but I'm starting. I'm not content spending the rest of my life on a website training people over text. It's not my style. I want to be out there with the people. Learning and teaching. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And yes, some (or many) people at this site are content with the way things are. And, I am too. This is "enough". But, expansion only spreads the opportunity more. It gives people a chance to immerse themselves in the teachings and practices. It gives touching fellowship. It's traditional and beautiful.

There's nothing wrong with approaching this from that fashion. I hope nobody demonizes that viewpoint. As for foundations, they are certainly there. Maybe not enough to start a worldwide movement. But, to teach a lesson on a wednesday night? A Saturday evening? A sunday morning? To sing a song together in your living room? To practice survival skills on a group camping trip?

I am finished waiting. Things are moving forward and I'm going with them, rather than being a rock slowly eroding because it's lodged to the bottom of a very active river.

I love everything you just said, but most particularly "I'm in the business of being awesome"

Too cool