Actual Churches?

We just need some land. Nobody's going to invest in a not-for-profit venture and nobody's going to give grants to a bunch of dirty hippy jedis. Let's just assume that nobody is going to do anything for us ever and it's a dog-eat-dog world out there. I say we just take some unused land and claim it; as is our right under the divine will of the force.

lol, Whyte Horse, that is an admirable idea, although in the United States, all land is technically under the ownership of the Department of Natural Resources. Staking claim on land is tantamount to stealing from the government.

Larrus wrote: lol, Whyte Horse, that is an admirable idea, although in the United States, all land is technically under the ownership of the Department of Natural Resources. Staking claim on land is tantamount to stealing from the government.

I think he was joking

I hope he was joking :dry:

But we should assume that no one will give us anything but our own members. That is why in my mind building membership is our most important goal, building membership, improving our training programme, improving our materials and our methods. That is far more important and lasting than a building.

Larrus wrote: lol, Whyte Horse, that is an admirable idea, although in the United States, all land is technically under the ownership of the Department of Natural Resources. Staking claim on land is tantamount to stealing from the government.

Well technically speaking, all land in the US belongs to Native tribes and many have ended their treaties with the US that allows the US to claim land rights.

I'm not advocating ruining a national forest or kicking someone out of their home. The US has millions of acres of unused land that is abandoned. One can simply claim it and after a few years get the title under adverse posession.

I don't think adverse possession applies to land, or even in most states. I just emailed my attorney,should have an answer in a coiple hours. Its early here still.

We schemeing Jedi...

Maybe we should volunteer a tithe to the Temple and when they have 10 or 20 grand we can find the most god aweful nowhere, buy 50 acres for a penny on the dollar and make it a real labor of love. We could camp until the main building is up and then sleep there until other spaces are made available...

Desolous wrote: I don't think adverse possession applies to land, or even in most states. I just emailed my attorney,should have an answer in a coiple hours. Its early here still.

His answer verbatim re adverse possession:

Adverse possession applies in almost all jurisdictions. It is typically set out clearly by statute. The requirements are strict. It applies to almost all but state land in AL. I work mostly in property now, so if you have something specific in mind let me know.

Desolous wrote:

Desolous wrote: I don't think adverse possession applies to land, or even in most states. I just emailed my attorney,should have an answer in a coiple hours. Its early here still.

His answer verbatim re adverse possession:

Adverse possession applies in almost all jurisdictions. It is typically set out clearly by statute. The requirements are strict. It applies to almost all but state land in AL. I work mostly in property now, so if you have something specific in mind let me know.

There ya go... I already know the strict requirements. You can't just go hunting once a year on some property and claim it. You have to actually control/possess it for a majority of the time.

As I understand it, with my GED in law, is that there is more to it than that, and that its prohibitively complicated. The other messages I haven't included detailed the process, the main point of which was 24/7 possession of the property in question for the given amount of time. This is not feasible for most people, which is why this procedure is relegated to the oddities section of legal goings on. Its very complicated, and for that reason, rare.

Desolous wrote: As I understand it, with my GED in law, is that there is more to it than that, and that its prohibitively complicated. The other messages I haven't included detailed the process, the main point of which was 24/7 possession of the property in question for the given amount of time. This is not feasible for most people, which is why this procedure is relegated to the oddities section of legal goings on. Its very complicated, and for that reason, rare.

I think there is a large vested interest out there telling everyone adverse posession is impossible, prohibitively complicated, rare, unusual, etc. I also recall renowned economists and real estate "experts" saying there wasn't a housing bubble, now is the time to buy, there is no risk, etc.