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05 Feb 2015 20:13 #180368 by steamboat28
No. They don't. Or at least, they shouldn't.

I have the "choice" to gun down a dozen strangers when I go to the mall, but if I exercise it, there are legal penalties because I've just ****ing killed people.

This should work the exact same way, because it is potentially just as deadly.
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05 Feb 2015 20:14 #180369 by Amaya
Drunk driving is a choice... People choose to drive drunk...They choose to go too fast...
it is completely different

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05 Feb 2015 20:15 #180370 by Kit

elizabeth wrote: Drunk driving is a choice... People choose to drive drunk...They choose to go too fast...
it is completely different


Why is it so wrong to drive drunk?
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05 Feb 2015 20:16 #180371 by steamboat28

elizabeth wrote: Drunk driving is a choice... People choose to drive drunk...They choose to go too fast...
it is completely different


People also choose not to vaccinate. Both can end with piles of dead children. That doesn't make either of them okay.
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05 Feb 2015 20:16 #180372 by Amaya
i actually never said it was wrong I said it was a choice people make

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05 Feb 2015 20:18 #180373 by Kit

elizabeth wrote: i actually never said it was wrong I said it was a choice people make


I'm aware you didn't say it was, but I'm assuming that it is based off the fact there are HUGE penalties that the US government enforces to those that do. So I'll ask again: Why is it so bad to drive drunk?
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05 Feb 2015 20:21 - 05 Feb 2015 20:22 #180374 by

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elizabeth wrote: I am saying that its a choice and as such people have as much right to say yes or no to vaccinations.


Then should drunk driving also be a choice without consequence?

Steamboat28 wrote: No. They don't. Or at least, they shouldn't.

I have the "choice" to gun down a dozen strangers when I go to the mall, but if I exercise it, there are legal penalties because I've just ****ing killed people.

This should work the exact same way, because it is potentially just as deadly


I refer to my earlier statement about the number of people affected by non-vaccinated individuals. Both of your examples cause way more deaths than non-vaccinated people do. To my knowledge the Disney Land thing is the first major issue in a while of this kind while both of those things run rampant in the U.S. even with the laws against them.

It seems like making it a choice is working out for the most part. We had one issue in an area that is filled with anti-vaxxers. Do we know how many of those affected were vaccinated? I haven't really looked into that part but it'd be interesting to know.

Steam, your last few posts have seemed to be a hyperbole (if I'm using that term correctly, which I think I am). There's a far stretch from not vaccinating to being a comic book villain or gunning inoccents down. I agree with getting vaccinated but I disagree with villifying anti-vaxxers.
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05 Feb 2015 20:23 - 05 Feb 2015 20:27 #180375 by steamboat28

Goken wrote: Steam, your last two posts have seemed to be a hyperbole (if I'm using that term correctly, which I think I am). There's a far stretch from not vaccinating to being a comic book villain or gunning inoccents down. I agree with getting vaccinated but I disagree with villifying anti-vaxxers.


When you have to shepherd three kids, an aunt, and two grandparents through a world where (to them) even a common cold could be fatal, and then see people willingly forgo vaccines that keep more serious threats from rising again, we'll agree to re-evaluate my position on villification.

In the meantime, I'm going to post a link here for anyone who agrees that vaccination is actually healthy (y'know, in accordance with literally all the studies ever done on it), where they can donate immunizations through Unicef .
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05 Feb 2015 20:26 - 05 Feb 2015 20:29 #180376 by Zenchi
Getting vaccinations should not be mandatory, however if one is not willing to get themselves or their children vaccinated, they should not leave their houses if there is an epidemic active. Stupidity costs lives, people don't care two cents so long as they believe it will not affect them personally. As long as the electric, water and cable is on, people don't seem to care until the problem is staring them in the face. Think about those who actually can't get vaccinated, know someone who can't? What if they died because someone else were "exercising their rights?" This isn't about rights, its about public health, ensuring as few people possible suffer from diseases that CAN be prevented...

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05 Feb 2015 20:39 #180377 by Amaya
Just because people choose to say no to vaccination is not an indicator of wether they care about others..
It is a right to choose..
Many intelligent caring people make this choice, they are not idiots, they DO there research and base their choice on that.
Just because it doesn't fall in line with what you believe doesn't make it wrong!!!

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