Hey! Let's Open The Vaccination Can Of Worms!

I'm sorry, what makes you so sure that it isn't researchers or doctors that are refusing to vaccinate?

elizabeth wrote: I personally don't think people should be forced to vaccinate their kids. It is a choice that is down to the individual, made not by idiots but a lot of the time with careful research and an understanding of both sides of the argument for and against.

I wouldn't have a problem if the choice was an individual one. What I decide to eat affects me and my health. No one can tell me what I can and cannot stick in my mouth. Contracting and spreading diseases preventable by vaccination affects more than just me. It also affects the people who CAN'T get vaccinations whether or not they want to or those small percentages that the vaccines do not help. That should not be up for question at all.

Except you are telling people what to stick into their bodies so what's the difference?

elizabeth wrote: Except you are telling people what to stick into their bodies so what's the difference?

The difference is the distinction between drinking in the privacy of your own home, with your car keys safely hidden from your drunk-self, and climbing behind the wheel of a fully-loaded double-decker bus after you're double-past the legal limit.

One of those things will only hurt you.
The other could kill many, many people who had no say in your decision.

If you can't understand that, then I literally don't know what to tell you.

elizabeth wrote: Except you are telling people what to stick into their bodies so what's the difference?

I just explained the difference.

One (eating) impacts only myself
The other (vaccinations) is a matter of PUBLIC health.

Because other people decided not to vaccinate, they are putting my child at risk. How is that fair?

How is it fair that I don't get that choice?
You can decide to protect your self and your children as you wish, but that same right is held by others that may disagree with your choices.

elizabeth wrote: How is it fair that I don't get that choice?
You can decide to protect your self and your children as you wish, but that same right is held by others that may disagree with your choices.

So you want people to be able to choose to bring horrible, agonizing deaths, permanent injuries and scarring, and general misery to large, public areas where these diseases have been all but eradicated, just for the sake of personal choice?

That's not an issue of personal rights. That's a comic book villain plot.

elizabeth wrote: How is it fair that I don't get that choice?
You can decide to protect your self and your children as you wish, but that same right is held by others that may disagree with your choices.

My child is too young to be vaccinated. And what about the people who can not get vaccinations because of their immune system or allergies? We rely on herd immunity to keep them healthy. "Your rights end where mine begin"

On what grounds do you not want vaccinations?

I am saying that its a choice and as such people have as much right to say yes or no to vaccinations.

elizabeth wrote: I am saying that its a choice and as such people have as much right to say yes or no to vaccinations.

Then should drunk driving also be a choice without consequence?