Hey! Let's Open The Vaccination Can Of Worms!

Vesha wrote: The big deal here is 10% of people who get vaccinated don't get immunity which means these unvaccinated people could easy kill you. We don't let people drink and rive or drive recklessly because they could kill you, it's not a question of freedom of choice ,but a matter of public safety.

Although, and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that drunk drivers more people than unvaccinated people (by means of not being vaccinated, not counting other ways they could kill people). I'm still for vaccinations, just pointing out why I think they made drunk driving laws and not vaccination laws.

Kamizu wrote: lol my firearm example may have sucked but at least there's other people who have better ones

It didn't suck.

Goken wrote: ...just pointing out why I think they made drunk driving laws and not vaccination laws.

The reason there aren't vaccination laws is because people used to have the sense to know they were good for you. This is the first generation of idiots willing to challenge the entirety of Western medicine from their Lay-Z-Boys with their print-out homeopathic degrees from fly-by-night websites.

Thanks to everyone who has provided evidence and examples so far. I'm glad to see that what I felt in my gut seems to correspond with the science as well.

Rather than mandating vaccinations using the law, I like the idea of restricting the privileges of those who choose not to vaccinate. Your kid should not be in public school with mine if you choose to make them a threat to my child's health.

While researching further, I saw this put pretty simply. "If my kid can't have peanut butter for lunch because your kid is allergic, why should your kid be allowed to bring measles to school."

Senan wrote: Rather than mandating vaccinations using the law, I like the idea of restricting the privileges of those who choose not to vaccinate. Your kid should not be in public school with mine if you choose to make them a threat to my child's health.

While researching further, I saw this put pretty simply. "If my kid can't have peanut butter for lunch because your kid is allergic, why should your kid be allowed to bring measles to school."

It'll help because not everyone can afford not sending their kids to private school or homeschooling but that won't prevent them from going to the park, or the mall, or Disneyland.

I love that quote hahaha. But is peanut butter seriously banned from schools?

Senan wrote: "If my kid can't have peanut butter for lunch because your kid is allergic, why should your kid be allowed to bring measles to school."

Are there really schools that won't let kids bring in peanut butter? That's rediculous! I know people with peanut allergies so I understand how sensitive they can be, but to put a school wide ban on peanut butter? Sorry, different though slightly related issue.

That quote does make a valid point. Although between restricting the rights of unvaccinated children and forcing them to be vaccinated I'd rather force them to be vaccinated. Both options make the anti-vaxer crowd unhappy, but only one of them punishes the children for the decisions of the parents.

Steamboat28 wrote: The reason there aren't vaccination laws is because people used to have the sense to know they were good for you. This is the first generation of idiots willing to challenge the entirety of Western medicine from their Lay-Z-Boys with their print-out homeopathic degrees from fly-by-night websites.

Valid point. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it negates mine (which you didn't claim to do), but it is a good point.

Kamizu wrote: But is peanut butter seriously banned from schools?

The public schools haven't gone as far as banning it yet. There are some public schools around me that do have "peanut free" areas in the lunch rooms though. A lot of preschools and private schools do not allow peanut butter in school lunches.

Keep in mind that I live in Southern California where everything requires a sensational knee-jerk overreaction. Logic and reason are two things that do not sit well with Hollywood. Hence, the anti-vaxxers...

Please get vaccinated. You will not die. You will live, we will live. I like living.

I personally don't think people should be forced to vaccinate their kids. It is a choice that is down to the individual, made not by idiots but a lot of the time with careful research and an understanding of both sides of the argument for and against.
Parents in the UK do sign a form that explains the pros and cons of vaccination and it is usually not just a quick decision for people, nor should it be.

elizabeth wrote: ...with careful research and an understanding of both sides of the argument for and against.

Then I'll start asking anti-vaxxers for full bibliographies for their decision, or the location of the laboratory at which they conducted their testing.