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09 Oct 2016 15:30 #260296 by Edan
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I went to update my own profile today and noticed that there are only two options for gender.
Given some of the discussions that have happened at totjo in the past, and the variety of people here, I wondered if perhaps we could be more inclusive and have some other options, even if it just 'other - please ask.'

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09 Oct 2016 15:39 #260297 by rugadd
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Yeah, or maybe open it up to a write in so people can put whatever they want.

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09 Oct 2016 15:48 #260298 by ren
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My experience of such people at totjo is that they absolutely need to be one or the other -- can't remain as neither even if that's how they were born. there are 3 options though, the third one being non-disclosure.

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09 Oct 2016 15:51 #260299 by Edan
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ren wrote: My experience of such people at totjo is that they absolutely need to be one or the other -- can't remain as neither even if that's how they were born. there are 3 options though, the third one being non-disclosure.


In the spirit of not making assumptions about people, non disclosure isn't very helpful.

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09 Oct 2016 15:53 #260300 by ren
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Edan wrote:

ren wrote: My experience of such people at totjo is that they absolutely need to be one or the other -- can't remain as neither even if that's how they were born. there are 3 options though, the third one being non-disclosure.


In the spirit of not making assumptions about people, non disclosure isn't very helpful.

even if it just 'other - please ask.'


You sure change your mind quick don't you?! :D

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09 Oct 2016 15:56 #260301 by Edan
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ren wrote:

Edan wrote:

ren wrote: My experience of such people at totjo is that they absolutely need to be one or the other -- can't remain as neither even if that's how they were born. there are 3 options though, the third one being non-disclosure.


In the spirit of not making assumptions about people, non disclosure isn't very helpful.

even if it just 'other - please ask.'


You sure change your mind quick don't you?! :D


I'm sorry? 'other' isn't non disclosure... It's a disclosure that it's not straight forward male or female.

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09 Oct 2016 16:12 #260302 by Amaya
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You dont have to put anything. I have never filled in profile.
But I dont see a problem with non disclosure.
People will assume of names or profile pictures anyway. I dont see how it matters.
And as it stands they can change there profile should they wish to be know by another gender.

Does anyone even read the profile of others?
(just wondering because I never have)

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09 Oct 2016 16:30 #260303 by ren
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The probability of me doing any work to differentiate between "I haven't selected anything as gender therefore you'll have to ask" and "I identify as something funky which isn't available therefore you'll have to ask" is a guaranteed zero.

Besides, I don't see why we'd ask people if they have gender dysphoria when we don't ask about other mental illnesses, especially as the vast majority of the membership is incapable of identifying or accommodating simple common personality quirks / mental illnesses.

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09 Oct 2016 16:37 - 09 Oct 2016 16:43 #260304 by JamesSand
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I assume this is a relatively easy technical fix for the site admins?


I don't have a preference as to how it's laid out, but a lot of "official" forms use

M/F/X

If Non-selection is already an option, then I don't see the issue.

There's free text areas in your profile? I suppose you can add whatever commentary about yourself you like there.
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09 Oct 2016 16:37 #260305 by
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elizabeth wrote: Does anyone even read the profile of others?
(just wondering because I never have)


I often do, especially when greeting new members in chat. It helps me to get a feel for who they are, connect with them better, and get them oriented. It's certainly not necessary, but I find it's a useful tool for me.

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