Fyxe wrote: ... jedi here love their knowledge right? But then all over the doctrine here there are soft areas that skim over this tenet and ignore the actual fact that we dont really know anything about the force or consciousness or where the universe even came from. Every religion except this jediism has clear and exact descriptions of the nature of reality, how it got here, the agencies involved and the process done to make it. But the one religion that puts knowledge highest does none of this.
Correct. Now read what you wrote in that passage agan, take a step back, and think. Why is that so? What is it about a commitment to knowledge that makes people admit when they are lacking some?
See, it's very easy to just make up nonsense and proclaim it to be gospel truth. It's so easy, thousands upon thousands of prophets have done so throughout history, and more are coming up every day. What few were heard gathered a following and what retained it after their passing had it evolve into churches. And how many blood was shed in an effort to find out who is right in the end, who has any of their gods truly on their side!
There is no confronting ignorance without acknowledging it. No crusade starts by thinking there no lands to conquer. Ignorance is maintained only by and within those who think they have it all long figured out already, those who think they have nothing left to learn, that they have the definitive, final answers, the final solutions to all the world's problems. Knowledge, on the other hand, is accumulated by the humble. Not the overly virtuous pseudo-humble, who keep singing songs of their ignorance, hoping to be compared to Socrates, the wisest of them all, but those who rightly acknowledge and admit their limitations and work on expanding their horizons. Knowledge isn't grown in those who already know, nor those who think they cannot know, but in those who have yet more to learn and are willing to get on with it. Ignorant is not the one who keeps pushing the issues, begging to learn more, questioning themselves and those around them, and everything anyone thinks they know so well. Ignorant are those who'd rather have the answers handed to them, lest they ever need to think on their own again, as are those who make up their own truths, revealed to them by what they convinced themselves to be the ultimate authority - even if it is but their own and naught else - never to be challenged again.
Ignorant is not the one who
doesn't know, Fyxe. Ignorant is the one who
won't.
... present something, anything outside of the realm of science and look out!!! You in for the fight of your life!!
That's incorrect. There are huge threads, even entire forum sections that operate well without any such constraints. Just because
you got in a fight over scientific accuracy doesn't mean everyone has to. And you only got in such fights when ever you tried to claim scientific accuracy for your woo in the first place. That choice was entirely with you.
Know why? Because the actual doctrine here doesnt really tell us anything at all. It's not a basis for a religion that people can get behind at all! There is nothing there but a bit of ghost turd fluff and so we are all left to try and define these things on our own instead of relying in a clear and concise written doctrine that we can start using as a base of common discussion. Instead we all just start wherever we are and let the wars rage!
So... just like in every other religion, then? What's your point? What would you rather this be like? One Dear Leader
TM preaching before a bowing mass who all chant "Yes, Master!" at his every word? What's the complaint here? Is this too liberal for your liking? Too un-dogmatic? Too much about thinking and too little about obedience? Too much - dare I say it - about knowledge, and not enough about ignorance? About peace, rather than passion? About harmony rather than tyranny? What are you looking for, Fyxe? Why do drag every thread into this discussion and not leave them be about their respective topics? What is the problem?
