Is the water live?

Is water (H2O) alive?

If we have not agreed on the characteristics of life, on what it means to be alive, there is no answer at all.

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Answering the question: Why is water not [a] living thing?

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Sudaravan, Passionate about Physics and Computer Science,
Answered Apr 20, 2018

By definition, water is inanimate (not living), it . Water is a molecule(H2O), it has never been and never will be a living thing. Water is definitely not a living thing. That said, most water contains living organisms in some form of suspension.

It doesn’t have any characteristics of a living thing like:

Living things are made of cells.
Living things obtain and use energy.
Living things grow and develop.
Living things reproduce.
Living things respond and may adapt to their environment.

If something follows one or just a few of the characteristics listed above, it does not necessarily mean that it is living. Here are some examples:

Sugar crystals growing on the bottom of a syrup container. They grow, but that does not mean they are alive.
An automobile uses energy and moves, but that does not mean it is living.
Fire uses energy and reproduces, but that does not mean it is living.

Living things MUST exhibit all of the characteristics.

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If someone has a different list then present it. At least we'll know what we're talking about.

So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Sounds like a living biosphere that would very definately include water as a part of that process as well so I see no reason not to call it something that if not life itself contributes to life, just like blood contributes to our lives. Seems alive to me.

What would it take to change your mind?

Fyxe wrote: So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Sounds like a living biosphere that would very definately include water as a part of that process as well so I see no reason not to call it something that if not life itself contributes to life, just like blood contributes to our lives. Seems alive to me.

That's right. It's not alive but it's necessary for human life.

State your characteristics of a living thing.

Water is necessary for human life but it is not alive.

Saying stupid shit for a million times makes a great big pile of stupid shit. It does not make it true

DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE = H2O

Water is a simple molecule possessing 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen.

IT HAS NO BIOLOGICAL COMPONENTS.
IT IS NOT ALIVE.

There is no other answer.

unless we are talking about it from a philosophical perspective, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMwBwFj5nQ
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Br. John wrote: Saying stupid shit for a million times makes a great big pile of stupid shit. It does not make it true

Haha, that is beautiful! Boy, were I to put it in such words, I'd never hear the end of it. That is magnificent! I salute thee.

Fyxe wrote: So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Very well said.
Conception of water could be, that it´s inorganic part of one living organism, without which the life couldn´t exist.
It connects solid matter together as a whole.

I found informations which says that at the beginning was the Universe liquid,
which fits into my idea about it, thus that liquid holds Universe as one living organism.
It can be observe not just within our body, but in the whole Universe

https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050418/full/050418-5.html

Fyxe wrote: So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Sounds like a living biosphere that would very definately include water as a part of that process as well so I see no reason not to call it something that if not life itself contributes to life, just like blood contributes to our lives. Seems alive to me.

You're right until you mess it up at the end. Water is part of the process of life. It's not alive itself; it contributes to life. Nobody disputes that

Erinis wrote:

Fyxe wrote: So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Very well said.
Conception of water could be, that it´s inorganic part of one living organism, without which the life couldn´t exist.
It connects solid matter together as a whole.

I found informations which says that at the beginning was the Universe liquid,
which fits into my idea about it, thus that liquid holds Universe as one living organism.
It can be observe not just within our body, but in the whole Universe

https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050418/full/050418-5.html

I read the article. The liquid phase lasted about 45 seconds and it was not water. There is no liquid that holds the Universe together today and there has not been for billions of years. That would be gravity. We are not talking about poetry and we are not speaking metaphorically. Pretend this is a high school Biology 1 Class. Kindly save the poetry and metaphors for English and Creative Writing.

Br. John wrote:

Fyxe wrote: So as a Jedi do you believe that all things are connected? Do you believe in the Gaia principle that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet?

Sounds like a living biosphere that would very definately include water as a part of that process as well so I see no reason not to call it something that if not life itself contributes to life, just like blood contributes to our lives. Seems alive to me.

That's right. It's not alive but it's necessary for human life.

State your characteristics of a living thing.

Water is necessary for human life but it is not alive.

Saying stupid shit for a million times makes a great big pile of stupid shit. It does not make it true

Characteristics for life is simply complexity. life is not an event or a thing. it is a process of complexity. it is an organization of elements that give rise to awareness. remove any of the elements and life ceases to exist. can you remove the blood from a human and that human still live? can you remove the water from this planet and expect it to continue to live? no in both cases. it is not the emergent property of awareness that creates life, it is the process itself and water is a necessary part of that process. so are the components of life alive? no but the resultant combination of them in specific quantities does create not only life but awareness. pretty amazing. thats alive to me. Its built into the very fabric of this universe. it cant help but be alive because of how the universe works.

Characteristics for life is simply complexity.

That's a breathtakingly stupid thing to say.

The characteristics of life are:

Living things are made of cells.
Living things obtain and use energy.
Living things grow and develop.
Living things reproduce.
Living things respond and may adapt to their environment.

If something follows one or just a few of the characteristics listed above, it does not necessarily mean that it is living.

You, Fyxe, keep throwing anything out there and coming up with ad hoc nonsense. There are all sorts of complex things that are not alive I can think of some math equations and spacecraft, even some recipes.

This is not the place for you. I recommend Quora.com

Br. John wrote: There is no liquid that holds the Universe together today and there has not been for billions of years.

Well what´s your point of view, what holds the Universe together. Just when you take our planet, it´s held together by water,
which enable us to live. Atmosphere which we breath, Blood connects solid body - makes it as one and viable.

Br. John wrote: Kindly save the poetry and metaphors for English and Creative Writing

I don´t see any kindness within this, someday I would like to know how your kindness looks like.

Fyxe wrote: Characteristics for life is simply complexity.

Br. John wrote: That's a breathtakingly stupid thing to say.

The characteristics of life are:

Living things are made of cells.
Living things obtain and use energy.
Living things grow and develop.
Living things reproduce.
Living things respond and may adapt to their environment.

John, Fyxe doesn´t said that water is live, we all agreed on that it´s not live, what he said was, that you can not
exempt water and still live. That´s the complexity he meant.

Gravity holds the planets together. Any water holding the sun together? The planet Mercury does not have water and it's managing to stay together. Water is not keeping the planets in orbit around the sun.

You presented a scientific question. Is water (H2O) alive? It is not alive.

In poetry, you can have a cow jumping over the moon and the dish running away with the spoon

I agree you cannot live without water, or without oxygen and many other things. Water itself is not alive.

The lunatic contortions this has gone through are enough to make a Saint curse like a Sailor. Besides, to me, I'm Kindness personified so it must be true.

Is this settled now?

Br. John wrote: Any water holding the sun together? The planet Mercury does not have water and it's managing to stay together

I spoke just about our planet

Br. John wrote: Gravity holds the planets together

You see that complexity. I didn´t said it´s just water which holds solid matter together.

Br. John wrote: Water itself is not alive.

I already wrote that we all agreed on that it´s not alive, why do you still bringing it back.