About Police Shootings (in America, Duh)

Most Democrats that take a radical stance as in wants no guns , wants abortions all the way up to birth , socialism , those who call our founding fathers racists , who won't compromise , who puts their ideas over the people who vote for them . I guess that's as accurate as I can get .

I see. How many of these individuals have you spoken with?

Only a handful on blue politics , none that are actually involved in the US diplomacy like leaders that are apart of the house or Senate . So if your asking how many have I talked to with actual political influence none yet .

I am not asking about individuals of political influence, just those in your normal circle. Now, what are these individual's views on guns? And why? By which I mean have you listened to their stories?

They basically said that all Americans are too stupid to own guns and their only "stories" is them pointing out school shootings and mass shootings , nothing actual personal .

I see. So we'll have to go a different route. Have you researched bills, policies and petitions that concern gun laws from the "far left"

Here are two bills I found:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8

Can you find similar ones?

More to the point, what is problematic about these two?

Malicious wrote: wants abortions all the way up to birth ,

I somehow doubt that's the case, an abortion isn't possible 'up til birth' as after a certain point because it just becomes an early birth. Are you sure you have asked these people what they really think about the topics you mention?

Well more or less what I was talking about is some Democrats pushing for 3rd trimester abortion bills , and the Democratic debates where some of the candidates said they will either take our guns or issue a mandatory government buy back (or) putting a decent amount of restrictions to buy or own a gun . On the 3rd trimester abortion bills a main argument is pregnancy complications but if that happens that late in the pregnancy a baby could possibly survive by its own . And as for the gun part I was pretty much speaking about when O'Rourke said he if he won he will take them away and other nominees taking similar stances .

I might be a bit ill informed so I apologize for making this thread off topic and would like to end this debacle on my end , if you all want to continue on the matter go for it . As for me Imma just drop it here because after reading my post and what I'm briefly explaining I'm causing this thread to get off topic .

Malicious wrote: Well more or less what I was talking about is some Democrats pushing for 3rd trimester abortion bills , and the Democratic debates where some of the candidates said they will either take our guns or issue a mandatory government buy back (or) putting a decent amount of restrictions to buy or own a gun . On the 3rd trimester abortion bills a main argument is pregnancy complications but if that happens that late in the pregnancy a baby could possibly survive by its own . And as for the gun part I was pretty much speaking about when O'Rourke said he if he won he will take them away and other nominees taking similar stances .

I might be a bit ill informed so I apologize for making this thread off topic and would like to end this debacle on my end , if you all want to continue on the matter go for it . As for me Imma just drop it here because after reading my post and what I'm briefly explaining I'm causing this thread to get off topic .

You're most welcome to create topics about these things. Here are some fact checking resources https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/or-forum/open-discussions/124040-fact-check-the-best-least-biased-resources#353225

And see "Democrats are embracing “abortion up until the moment of birth and even, horrifically, after that.” https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/27/ted-cruz/do-democrats-support-abortion-until-and-after-birt/

Malicious wrote: Most Democrats that take a radical stance as in wants no guns , wants abortions all the way up to birth , socialism , those who call our founding fathers racists , who won't compromise , who puts their ideas over the people who vote for them . I guess that's as accurate as I can get .

I have yet to meet one of these unicorn mythical democrats you speak of. And I don't know of anyone who has. So is it possible that POLITICAL PROPAGANDA might be responsible for building a mythical democrat as a strawman and a fear mongering scare tactic to get you to passionately vote against this mythical democrat who wants no guns, abortions up til birth, etc. so that you are actually voting for them and whatever their radical ideas are?

Many democrats are simply open to new ideas because we're not trying to "conserve" the status quo. The status quo has only been working for certain people. So if other countries are smart enough to look at some ideas and integrate some ideas from socialism, that doesn't make the country "socialist". But in the minds of media heads that want you to blindly give your power and support to their party, they create this fear that that is exactly what the country will become. And its nonsense. When we look at gun crime stats in Europe and Japan its obvious there should be less guns and that it should be more difficult to get and use them. But it shouldn't be impossible either. It's about balance. But this idea that democrats want to take your freedoms is a ridiculous lie. They said Obama was going to take your guns. Did he? No. So these are lies meant to control your vote.