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14 Nov 2014 11:51 #169810 by Akkarin
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Brenna wrote: On a basic level, the problem is that focusing on the "being angry", makes you angry. When you rant, one of two things might happen. It may be a sense of “flapping” as Jestor likes to call it, a release of excess energy that reduces the feeling of anger and irritations. (which frankly is more effective when done in physical activity rather than mental)

Or (and more commonly)

The process of ranting helps to strengthen the trigger/response mechanism about a particular topic. Essentially, the more you rant about a thing or topic, the more likely you are to get angry about it in the future because you’ve reinforced a thought pattern and its subsequent physiological and emotional response.

A study done last year at the Department of Human Development, University of Wisconsin on the rise of “ranting sites” stated “Decades of research have shown that venting, far from releasing anger, actually makes it worse. Not surprisingly, this study has shown that online ranting seems to increase anger and is associated with anger-related problems.”

From a personal perspective, being angry is more often than not my primary response when I feel out of control. Whether it’s when dealing with people (who are being dumbasses!) or circumstances (which really don’t friggen work for me!). The experience of being angry and ranting gives me a false sense that I’m “doing” something about it. Almost as though the significance of my anger is the same as taking action. And all it does is raise my cortisol and sensitize the trigger for the next time my mind recognizes a situation and puts it in the category of “getting pissed in 3…2…1..”

Which is why at the time, ranting feels good because youre “doing something” about it. But in the long term makes it easier to get angry, and less likely that you'll investigate the underlying issue.


This is a great TED Talk Vusuki posted a few days ago. Based on the information in the TED Talk what seems to be the biggest issue for ranting is neural plasticity, where someone can basically form connections in their brain over a certain issue (like whatever they rant about) and then by reinforcing that through persistent exposure just end up making it worse.

At any rate it's worth a watch :)

That gives all the more meaning to the Buddha's saying: "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

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14 Nov 2014 13:12 #169823 by Jestor
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Akkarin wrote:

Brenna wrote: On a basic level, the problem is that focusing on the "being angry", makes you angry. When you rant, one of two things might happen. It may be a sense of “flapping” as Jestor likes to call it, a release of excess energy that reduces the feeling of anger and irritations. (which frankly is more effective when done in physical activity rather than mental)

Or (and more commonly)

The process of ranting helps to strengthen the trigger/response mechanism about a particular topic. Essentially, the more you rant about a thing or topic, the more likely you are to get angry about it in the future because you’ve reinforced a thought pattern and its subsequent physiological and emotional response.

A study done last year at the Department of Human Development, University of Wisconsin on the rise of “ranting sites” stated “Decades of research have shown that venting, far from releasing anger, actually makes it worse. Not surprisingly, this study has shown that online ranting seems to increase anger and is associated with anger-related problems.”

From a personal perspective, being angry is more often than not my primary response when I feel out of control. Whether it’s when dealing with people (who are being dumbasses!) or circumstances (which really don’t friggen work for me!). The experience of being angry and ranting gives me a false sense that I’m “doing” something about it. Almost as though the significance of my anger is the same as taking action. And all it does is raise my cortisol and sensitize the trigger for the next time my mind recognizes a situation and puts it in the category of “getting pissed in 3…2…1..”

Which is why at the time, ranting feels good because youre “doing something” about it. But in the long term makes it easier to get angry, and less likely that you'll investigate the underlying issue.


This is a great TED Talk Vusuki posted a few days ago. Based on the information in the TED Talk what seems to be the biggest issue for ranting is neural plasticity, where someone can basically form connections in their brain over a certain issue (like whatever they rant about) and then by reinforcing that through persistent exposure just end up making it worse.

At any rate it's worth a watch :)

That gives all the more meaning to the Buddha's saying: "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."


You say that and no link?

Thats bull... lol...

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14 Nov 2014 13:21 #169824 by Alexandre Orion
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Not 'bull' precisely ... just a little lazy, maybe ... :P

Here ye go :

www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/open-...happiest-life#168566

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14 Nov 2014 14:29 #169835 by Akkarin
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Jestor wrote: You say that and no link?

Thats bull... lol...


Lol my bad, thanks Alex :D

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14 Nov 2014 14:51 #169841 by J_Roz
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Ok here's my rant: took my Toyota rav4 for some warranty work yesterday. Now all of a sudden the entire back end of the car is rattling/thumping making all kinds of terrible noise and the dealership is refusing to find out what they did wrong. My car has been absolutely perfect up until yesterday. Just shy of 60,000 miles and has been great. So yeah I'm a bit grouchy after the phone call to the dealer. *sigh

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14 Nov 2014 20:03 #169902 by Brenna
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Akkarin wrote: This is a great TED Talk Vusuki posted a few days ago. Based on the information in the TED Talk what seems to be the biggest issue for ranting is neural plasticity, where someone can basically form connections in their brain over a certain issue (like whatever they rant about) and then by reinforcing that through persistent exposure just end up making it worse.

At any rate it's worth a watch :)

That gives all the more meaning to the Buddha's saying: "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."


Yes. This!



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17 Nov 2014 03:13 #170121 by Zephyrus
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GAHHH. Sometimes people can be so infuriatingly selfish. -___-

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17 Nov 2014 03:59 #170123 by Brenna
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GAAAAAH I hate it when people are condescending and demanding and then act like its your fault somehow


:evil: :woohoo: :silly: :P



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17 Nov 2014 04:10 #170125 by Adder
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I really love it when its melting hot outside and I have to go do gardening.

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17 Nov 2014 04:14 #170126 by steamboat28
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HULK WANT CHOCOLATE.
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