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01 Apr 2013 15:45 #100945 by
I live in New York State USA. Our Governor has made a new gun law that is quite controversial. He is of course will be run for President of the US so his motivations are obvious. Batteling with the NRA is like free political advertising for him. I'm suggesting you question the: motives, experiences and subject knowledge of the folks that are most vocal on gun control.

Having said that: background checks for crooks and nut cases and tracking private gun sales are good things. Limiting the size of gun clips would not change my life either.

Bad people are bad people, we will always have them. Random violence is random. Can't change that either.

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01 Apr 2013 16:29 #100954 by
I refuse to believe that changes in gun law, as oin comparable first world nations, would not have.beneficial results. We lead the world in. Gun deaths. Ask yourself why? And why other countries gun deathj rates are so very much lower per capita than ours.

This isn't malevolent. Its math. Its logic. More guns equals more people shot. And my own motives, experiwences and knowledge with weapons is above reproach.

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01 Apr 2013 16:49 #100957 by steamboat28

Desolous wrote: More guns equals more people shot.

I think that's a gross oversimplification.

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01 Apr 2013 17:05 #100958 by
Whats overly simple about it? Take books for example, fewer books means fewer bible thumpers because there would be fewer bibles to thump.

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01 Apr 2013 17:08 #100959 by

Desolous wrote: . And my own motives, experiwences and knowledge with weapons is above reproach.


I wasn't directing my statment at you. Sorry if you took it that way. I think you would agree there a lot of ignorant people vocal about guns.

More guns equals more people shot.


Guns in the wrong peoples hands is the problem.

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01 Apr 2013 17:15 #100961 by steamboat28

Andy Spalding wrote: Whats overly simple about it? Take books for example, fewer books means fewer bible thumpers because there would be fewer bibles to thump.

It also means lower literacy rates and less dissemination of knowledge, leading to a more ignorant populace. Simplicity is amazingly understaffed to handle the societal needs of walking tubes with holes at each end most of the time.

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01 Apr 2013 17:24 #100963 by
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. Simplicity is amazingly understaffed to handle the societal needs of walking tubes with holes at each end most of the time.[/quote]

I don't understand what you're trying to say?

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01 Apr 2013 17:25 - 01 Apr 2013 17:26 #100964 by
We should also limit plastic light sabers too. BECAUSE...
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01 Apr 2013 17:31 #100966 by Wescli Wardest

Brenna wrote: I believe the expression is "guns don't kill people, people kill people"

I’ve always said that, “guns don’t kill people, Dads with pretty daughters kill people!”

Hahahhahaha :woohoo:

Andy Spalding wrote: Whats overly simple about it? Take books for example, fewer books means fewer bible thumpers because there would be fewer bibles to thump.


I found that to be amusing! :P

There seems to be two basic lines of thought. Have guns and defend yourself from bad people doing bad things to you, and don’t have guns and protect people from other people with guns. Interestingly enough, both positions seem to be decisions based out of fear. Fear of one thing or another. And that’s really what guns come down to on their most basic level. Fear. Why does an Army have guns? Fear of being defeated. Why do hunters have guns? Fear of not getting the game. Why does a civilian have a gun? Fear for personal protection. It may very well be an oversimplification, but that’s what I see… fear, fear, fear!

Do I own firearms? Yup! Do I have a fear of any of those things previously mentioned? Nope! Why do I own a firearm? I like long distance marksmanship.

Like with anything, you can legalize it or make it illegal, people will still do it and do bad things with it. That doesn’t mean you should give up though. But rather than say you should or shouldn’t have a thing, why don’t we educate others? Why not work to improve the “morals” of the society so that we don’t have to worry about someone doing something mean, stupid or spiteful?

I think that it would be a better world if people were afforded the freedom of choice, and they chose not to.

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01 Apr 2013 18:34 #100977 by steamboat28

Rickie The Grey wrote:

steamboat28 wrote: Simplicity is amazingly understaffed to handle the societal needs of walking tubes with holes at each end most of the time.


I don't understand what you're trying to say?

I'm trying to say that "simple" doesn't usually work well with people, because people aren't really simple.

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