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01 May 2015 11:36 #190404 by
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Sithism interests me not at all but, Nietzsche does. Why would I want to filter my reading of Nietzsche through Sithism? That's a genuine question, why would I? Does Sithism have some insightful interpretation of Nietzsche?

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01 May 2015 17:24 #190429 by
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Very excerlent question Alan and I agree 110%. We are all aware of our light/dark, Ying/Yang as I prefer. So why bother with this sith stuff? Your're just dragging in more of the movies thing. Just always try to be the best person you can and keep moving foward. :)

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01 May 2015 19:49 #190449 by
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Why bother with the Jedi stuff?

I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.

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01 May 2015 20:12 #190451 by
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I think it's wise, if one is to know oneself completely, to get to know one's dark traits alongside one's light traits. It's not a fruitless activity. To get to know one's passionate side and then learn to control it requires strength. If you spend all of your time ignoring it, it will bite you in the end. Better to have control over your inner wolf than to let it control you, imo.

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01 May 2015 20:57 #190452 by RyuJin
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Connor L. wrote: I myself made an account a month or so ago. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to delve into the Nietzsche yet... it's quite hefty and I am finishing up school.


i've had an account there for a few months now....

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01 May 2015 23:34 #190463 by
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Alan wrote: Sithism interests me not at all but, Nietzsche does. Why would I want to filter my reading of Nietzsche through Sithism? That's a genuine question, why would I? Does Sithism have some insightful interpretation of Nietzsche?


This is not a genuine question.

If Sithism interests you not at all, chances are, even if they were somehow insightful in regards to Nietzsches work, your indifference would more than likely blind you to it.

Thats one of the consequences of a bias.

So, the question is hardly genuine, whats genuine, is your disinterest.

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02 May 2015 01:11 - 02 May 2015 01:23 #190468 by Zenchi
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Alan wrote: Sithism interests me not at all but, Nietzsche does. Why would I want to filter my reading of Nietzsche through Sithism? That's a genuine question, why would I? Does Sithism have some insightful interpretation of Nietzsche?


Its a bit the other way around Alan, Nietzsche was, and still is one of the most influential authors that had a hand in the creation of the fictional Sith and Sithism (two distinct different things there). His work has a huge role to play in what I call "Modern Sithism." So the question isn't to ask if Sithism can offer an insightful interpretation of Nietzsche, but how has Nietzsche's works helped to shape sithism as we know it.

If an individual is interested in learning from both sides of the coin per say, than I would highly recommend Nietzsche's works among others in order to understand Sithism better, just as I would suggest the Tao, the Bushido or something on Buddhism to gain a generalized perception on Jediism...


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02 May 2015 02:29 #190471 by Eleven
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just my personal opinion but, As a Abrahamic Jedi and before becoming a jedi. I always thought it was intresting to know why people believe in certain things. I have studied multiple religions and "cults" its very intresting to read why they believe it. Nothing wrong with it I feel it helps better understand why they do but, also brings a respect and peace toward that. I used to be a hard nosed Christian and used to be very unacceptable of other beliefs outside my own Until, that day I opened my understanding...big changed in my life. now I love for people to share their beliefs and love them for who they are and for what they believe. Mind you I dont believe in religious folks who cause harm to others. I dont agree with that. But, if you feel the need try it.

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04 May 2015 15:22 #190698 by
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Connor L. wrote: Why bother with the Jedi stuff?

I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.


I'm not understand the quetion?

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04 May 2015 16:05 #190703 by Zenchi
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I found the question pretty straight forward...

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04 May 2015 16:22 #190710 by Jestor
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Zenchi wrote: I found the question pretty straight forward...


And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...

I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...

As to:

Connor wrote: Why bother with the Jedi stuff?

I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.


Im not 'doing Jedi stuff', personally... (Although I guess it could be argued, lol)

I am studying for Jestor...

Titles and pigeon-holing be damned, lol...

Ive lived a less positive life, and Ive moved on... It was just a step to be worked through...

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04 May 2015 16:58 #190716 by
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Zenchi wrote: I found the question pretty straight forward...


specifically this..."if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal." I may be having one of my dumb as a rock moments?

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04 May 2015 17:07 #190717 by
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Rickie wrote:

Zenchi wrote: I found the question pretty straight forward...


specifically this..."if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal." I may be having one of my dumb as a rock moments?


Quite possibly, you may be having trouble recognizing that it wasn't a question. The actual question was "Why bother with the Jedi stuff?" and it was more rhetorical than a curiosity. The other sentence was a statement.

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04 May 2015 17:12 #190720 by
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Question? Statement. OK I'm still not understanding? That is a question. I'm pretty sure. :)

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04 May 2015 17:19 - 04 May 2015 17:22 #190723 by Zenchi
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Jestor wrote:

And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...

I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...


I figured they weren't expecting answers, was just being my silly sarcastic self, lol...

(Not pointed at anyone specifically) Please people, keep the discussion on topic, you need to feed your ego please start a thread for it....

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04 May 2015 17:28 #190729 by Jestor
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Zenchi wrote: Jestor wrote:

And I found both Alan's and Rickie's questions rhetorical, and really not 'questions' but 'ponderings'...

I definetly could be wrong, but judging by the responses, Id say Im not, lol...


I figured they weren't expecting answers, was just being my silly sarcastic self, lol...

(Not pointed at anyone specifically) Please people, keep the discussion on topic, you need to feed your ego please start a thread for it....


http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Humour/110485-jestor-s-ego#190726

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04 May 2015 17:36 #190731 by
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My understanding of the questions is thus:

Connor L. wrote: Why bother with the Jedi stuff?

I'm not sure I get why you're bringing that point up if you aren't going to give thought to the reciprocal.


Was a response to:

Rickie wrote: We are all aware of our light/dark, Ying/Yang as I prefer. So why bother with this sith stuff? Your're just dragging in more of the movies thing.


If I understand your argument here, Rickie, it's that talking about Sith stuff is just needlessly brining in fiction lingo. Connor was making the same point about Jedi and then saying that if we have one we, by default, must also have the other. Like if a Christian wanted to believe in Heaven but not Hell. One needs the other.

At least I think that's what it all means. I could be way off, I have been before and will be again. :laugh:

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04 May 2015 17:47 #190734 by Zenchi
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Goken wrote: Like if a Christian wanted to believe in Heaven but not Hell. One needs the other.

At least I think that's what it all means. I could be way off, I have been before and will be again. :laugh:


You most assuredly are. Try day and night, or any other dual metaphor that doesn't point to one or the other being less, or worse than the other in value in relation to the discussion at hand...

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04 May 2015 18:03 - 04 May 2015 18:31 #190736 by OB1Shinobi
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my interpretation was

Alan is familiar with neitzsche - im betting he could give a lecture on the subject if it suited him or could at least put one together in short order

he specifically said "thats a genuine question"

i usually take people at their word when their words are precise

Rickie has come to the point where he sees it as being one path - i.e. growth and development in and of itself without the urge to say "this is different - that is different - we're different - youre different" and doesnt see that "sithism" has anything to offer which isnt either an indulgence on selfisness that actually takes away from course of jedi growth OR just an intrinsic part of whole self integration which is at the heart of the jedi path to begin with - in other words; unnecesary

Conner was annoyed that he saw yet another pot shot taken at his preffered philosophy

thats my interpretation
im curious how i did lol

People are complicated.
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04 May 2015 18:37 - 04 May 2015 18:37 #190737 by Zenchi
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I kindly ask members and non members to stick to the forum subject, if you sincerely have nothing of value to add (@/$ 8?9 ?9#5 9% 697 $9/.5) please find or create a thread to spin into nonsensical discussion about everyone's interpretations concerning everyone else's Interpretations...

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