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Consular, Guardian or Sentinel?
24 Nov 2015 01:26 #210053
by Adder
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Only the Council can tell you that :ohmy: :lol:
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24 Nov 2015 02:12 #210055
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I'm a fan of the consular, and to delve just slightly deeper, the Shadow subdivision. Basically, people who observe and only interfere indirectly if necessary, only directly intervening in the event of an emergency. I prefer to let things play out, as I believe the best lessons are self taught.
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24 Nov 2015 02:13 #210056
by OB1Shinobi
People are complicated.
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im just going to make something up and if anyone can get anything out of it thats great, if not, well im pursuing a degree but it isnt to be an author lol
i see a consulate as being a diplomat - which i think is in accord with the game
but as INSTRUMENTS OF PEACE i would encourage all jedi to consider themselves as diplomats in our social spheres
what is diplomacy but the ability to find the balance point between opposing or conflicting views and interests?
diplomats negotiate peace between vying factions - ive learned personally that i do well to consider myself a diplomat FOR myself, whose responsibility it is to negotiate healthy and generally peaceful relations between me and the rest of the world
a guardian im guessing would irl be something like a police officer or soldier - basically someone who takes responsibility for gaurding the just, the innocent, and the weak, from the abuses of the violent and the vicious
this would also extend to those who train for violence and who train others for it
i dont see this as a role every jedi should aspire to
it is a very important in society, and the institutions which fill it definitely "need" jedi influence, arguably more than most others, and if this is something you feel suited for then follow your calling, you are needed
but, here in the west we have this idea, socially, that heroes have to be violent and good at violence, and this idea is wrong, flat out, and it has lead many good people into bad situations
you dont have to be violent to be empowered or to be a leader or a hero or a jedi, you have to be COMMITED
and willing to WORK
my encouragement would be to follow what you know you are good at, or what you would be most effective at, without regard to if it is "good" enough
sentinel is where i guess i diverge totally from the fiction and just invent my own class
to me sentinal evokes the idea of someone who observes and learns and researches the movements and activities of the world. a sentinel is a kind of unbiased journalist whose mission is to BE INFORMED and when necessary to inform others
basically its a sentinals job to know whats going on and notice whats brewing
i consider myself most closely aligned with the sentinel class, though i also work to develop the skills of the gaurdian and the diplomat
i see a consulate as being a diplomat - which i think is in accord with the game
but as INSTRUMENTS OF PEACE i would encourage all jedi to consider themselves as diplomats in our social spheres
what is diplomacy but the ability to find the balance point between opposing or conflicting views and interests?
diplomats negotiate peace between vying factions - ive learned personally that i do well to consider myself a diplomat FOR myself, whose responsibility it is to negotiate healthy and generally peaceful relations between me and the rest of the world
a guardian im guessing would irl be something like a police officer or soldier - basically someone who takes responsibility for gaurding the just, the innocent, and the weak, from the abuses of the violent and the vicious
this would also extend to those who train for violence and who train others for it
i dont see this as a role every jedi should aspire to
it is a very important in society, and the institutions which fill it definitely "need" jedi influence, arguably more than most others, and if this is something you feel suited for then follow your calling, you are needed
but, here in the west we have this idea, socially, that heroes have to be violent and good at violence, and this idea is wrong, flat out, and it has lead many good people into bad situations
you dont have to be violent to be empowered or to be a leader or a hero or a jedi, you have to be COMMITED
and willing to WORK
my encouragement would be to follow what you know you are good at, or what you would be most effective at, without regard to if it is "good" enough
sentinel is where i guess i diverge totally from the fiction and just invent my own class
to me sentinal evokes the idea of someone who observes and learns and researches the movements and activities of the world. a sentinel is a kind of unbiased journalist whose mission is to BE INFORMED and when necessary to inform others
basically its a sentinals job to know whats going on and notice whats brewing
i consider myself most closely aligned with the sentinel class, though i also work to develop the skills of the gaurdian and the diplomat
People are complicated.
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24 Nov 2015 02:13 #210057
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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i don't really fit into one specific archetype....i'm fluid enough to go from one to another as needed...
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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24 Nov 2015 04:47 #210067
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I'm a Consular (Sage) on the SWTOR game (When I bother to play for the story).
I'm definitely more of a mystical/peace orientated person, than a gladiator/guardian type.
I'm definitely more of a mystical/peace orientated person, than a gladiator/guardian type.
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24 Nov 2015 04:56 - 24 Nov 2015 04:57 #210068
by Adder
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Yea I think a hybrid of Sage, Healer and Seer would be what might be called a Mystic, and I tend to view that as the foundation for expression of it against risk (... like a tetrahedron) which I classify as either Guardian or Sentinel depending in the nature of the application
Yea why cannot Jediism have its own structures based on fiction a little bit
This pic would be so apt right now if it were not for the EU's fascination with pyramids instead of tetrahedrons (platonic solid FTW)
Yea why cannot Jediism have its own structures based on fiction a little bit
This pic would be so apt right now if it were not for the EU's fascination with pyramids instead of tetrahedrons (platonic solid FTW)
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24 Nov 2015 05:02 #210069
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My desire from day one since reading the Jedi path is to be a Jedi Investigator which is a sub branch of the Sentinel. Have even started a study guide to someday pass the state private investigator exam to become licensed. Always liked the idea of chasing down leads and solving the case.
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24 Nov 2015 12:42 #210083
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I'm 99% sure that if I become a Jedi Master my role would be a Consular. Basiclly because my father is a Consular in RL haha
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26 Nov 2015 12:39 #210456
by Yugen
TOTJO Novice
Yugen (幽玄): is said to mean “a profound, mysterious sense of the beauty of the universe… and the sad beauty of human suffering”
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I would see myself actually as kind of a hybrid between sentinel and consular, maybe even lorekeeper.
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Yugen (幽玄): is said to mean “a profound, mysterious sense of the beauty of the universe… and the sad beauty of human suffering”
IP Journal
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26 Nov 2015 13:50 #210472
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In TOR, I chose Consular-Shadow. I liked the idea of being a peace keeper, but also the idea of being invisible, or a type of spy-Jedi.
In real life, I couldn't choose one, honestly.
In real life, I couldn't choose one, honestly.
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