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"She said she went to log in and saw the blocked account message, after it was unblocked she requsted it to be deactivated and made private/inaccessible to others"
She attempted to reach out to councilors as well to solve the issue...
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Zenchi wrote:
I also told you you'd make an outstanding Knight, if you'd only stop with the trolling. And immediatly saying as such, i sincerely asked you if you were trans, you laughed. What else was i supposed to think other than your just using the female persona to troll harder...
So you're not exactly being honest here. I'm more than willing to discuss this civilly over pm if it interests you...
And my being a Knight had absolutely nothing to do with how i approached you, ive made my opinion known about what i think about "rank" here for quite some time, so please stop stretching as i've explained this more times than i can count...
You brought this to the public arena, not I. I think it should be discussed here, in the open. And please do not take this as me trying to depict myself as a saint. I have engaged in verbal combat on these boards, fought battles of injustices I perceived, even raged, same as you. Sometimes I was right and sometimes I was wrong and in that I have no issue with you in that regard. What I did take issue with was when you made it personal by engaging in antics I described above.
You say I laughed when you asked if I was trans. (which you did ask only after demands for a picture.) Why do you think that is? It’s because that is an incredibly personal question and one I was not willing to discuss with you. I didn’t trust you and I had no desire to engage you privately. You were not my friend and I did not have to answer your questions just because you think I did.
That also does not mean you just get to judge me unilaterally as a troll and decide I need to be bullied into revealing such details to you. Lack of knowledge does not give you the right to insert any conclusion you feel is justified and then proceed to act on that judgment by launching a personal campaign against me. Using your privilege as a Knight you tried to get me demoted and/or banned behind the scenes while intimidating me publically on the boards and shout box to reveal personal info. And I believe you absolutely used your power as a Knight to find and stalk me on Facebook as well. You admitted that you had sought me out there I feel as another form of intimidation.
I did get your PM and I did see your apology. However I don’t see it as truly sincere when it is hidden like that. And because of that, I will also take this opportunity to publically apologize to you for any transgressions I have committed against you. I’m sorry if I have caused you strife or undue turmoil and I have taken my punishment for those offenses. The point of this is to resolve the lingering issues between us or at least to agree to disagree, bury the conflict and move forward on clean slates. I hope we can do that.
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:
Zenchi wrote:
I also told you you'd make an outstanding Knight, if you'd only stop with the trolling. And immediatly saying as such, i sincerely asked you if you were trans, you laughed. What else was i supposed to think other than your just using the female persona to troll harder...
So you're not exactly being honest here. I'm more than willing to discuss this civilly over pm if it interests you...
And my being a Knight had absolutely nothing to do with how i approached you, ive made my opinion known about what i think about "rank" here for quite some time, so please stop stretching as i've explained this more times than i can count...
You brought this to the public arena, not I. I think it should be discussed here, in the open. And please do not take this as me trying to depict myself as a saint. I have engaged in verbal combat on these boards, fought battles of injustices I perceived, even raged, same as you. Sometimes I was right and sometimes I was wrong and in that I have no issue with you in that regard. What I did take issue with was when you made it personal by engaging in antics I described above.
You say I laughed when you asked if I was trans. (which you did ask only after demands for a picture.) Why do you think that is? It’s because that is an incredibly personal question and one I was not willing to discuss with you. I didn’t trust you and I had no desire to engage you privately. You were not my friend and I did not have to answer your questions just because you think I did.
That also does not mean you just get to judge me unilaterally as a troll and decide I need to be bullied into revealing such details to you. Lack of knowledge does not give you the right to insert any conclusion you feel is justified and then proceed to act on that judgment by launching a personal campaign against me. Using your privilege as a Knight you tried to get me demoted and/or banned behind the scenes while intimidating me publically on the boards and shout box to reveal personal info. And I believe you absolutely used your power as a Knight to find and stalk me on Facebook as well. You admitted that you had sought me out there I feel as another form of intimidation.
I did get your PM and I did see your apology. However I don’t see it as truly sincere when it is hidden like that. And because of that, I will also take this opportunity to publically apologize to you for any transgressions I have committed against you. I’m sorry if I have caused you strife or undue turmoil and I have taken my punishment for those offenses. The point of this is to resolve the lingering issues between us or at least to agree to disagree, bury the conflict and move forward on clean slates. I hope we can do that.
And i offered to apologize over discord voice or even hangouts...
And the discussion you mentioned, yeah, i looked that up. I was not at all bullying, and I was very sincere, and you had no problem talking to me then. Funny how all of a sudden a private friendly chat is now tuned into my harassing you, which wasn't the case, and can be proven as such, if need be...
I personally can see alot of misleading being done over text, so perhaps you never believed what was stated, another reason why I offered to say it directly...
If you truly were intimidated by me, (you never showed it, and had no problem exchanging punches) then I DO whole heartedly apologize...
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Jack.Troutman wrote: Serenity just tried to log in...blocked message...Wed, 19 Sept, 2018 18:20 GMT Temple time. I saw the attempt.
Hmm. Let me see.
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