Voting to ban members

ren wrote:

Tempest Nox wrote:

lightscribe wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Not judging at all just ... noticing

I obviously had some issues with this thread, as you can see above. However, I fail to see a problem with the current discourse. It's a debate about politics and morality. How is that different from many of the conversations going on in other areas of the forum?

Let’s look at banning like a jail sentence and permanent banning as the death penalty. Neither should be decided by “the people” as a whole but instead by a neutral body such as a jury, and carried out by those given authority in this area of the forum.

I challenge you to tell an inmate on death row that their sentence is like getting banned from Totjo.

A ban is permanent until the council overrules it.

Now when you say overrule, what process takes place for that to happen? An official vote?

Yes. The council can do or undo anything.

ren wrote: Yes. The council can do or undo anything.

but a vote is always required yes?

The council only acts through a majority decision by councillors.

ren wrote: The council only acts through a majority decision by councillors.

So was there a majority vote to unban someone recently or when they just appeared out of nowhere you just left it as was instead of enforcing the previous vote?

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Knights-forum/122594-mortose?start=0#339366


“Replied by Br. John on topic Mortose
I don't know who removed the ban. Only three could do that. It's possible that the ban expired. If the account was banned with a time entered, at the end of that time it unbans without anyone doing anything. I don't remember who entered the ban or if there was a time set.”

IP - Jedi Essay 9: Letting Go of the Past

We teach that it is important for a Jedi to let go of the past and to not dwell on it. We need to remember that things gone by can no longer be changed.

What do you think this means?

How and where does this teaching tie into acceptance, acknowledgement and forgiveness?

Why do you think this might be important for a Jedi?

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/initiateprogramme/1883-im-finished

Tellahane wrote:

ren wrote: The council only acts through a majority decision by councillors.

So was there a majority vote to unban someone recently or when they just appeared out of nowhere you just left it as was instead of enforcing the previous vote?

Now that I’m aware of who this regards, I find myself disturbed. I assumed this was about general ban policy.

I now confront you. It’s been over 22 months. Care to let it go?

Tempest Nox wrote:

lightscribe wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Not judging at all just ... noticing

I obviously had some issues with this thread, as you can see above. However, I fail to see a problem with the current discourse. It's a debate about politics and morality. How is that different from many of the conversations going on in other areas of the forum?

Let’s look at banning like a jail sentence and permanent banning as the death penalty. Neither should be decided by “the people” as a whole but instead by a neutral body such as a jury, and carried out by those given authority in this area of the forum.

I don't we can make that metaphor and be (doctrine) against the death penalty. Food for thought.

Tellahane wrote:

ren wrote: The council only acts through a majority decision by councillors.

So was there a majority vote to unban someone recently or when they just appeared out of nowhere you just left it as was instead of enforcing the previous vote?

There was no council vote to ban mortose the last time, or at least no record of it. We (the council) have shown forgiveness to other members, and I do not understand why the (some) knights cannot show it to her.