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Announcement From Charles McBride
12 Aug 2012 14:16 #70083
by Ben
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Everyone...just STOP. Please?
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12 Aug 2012 14:19 #70084
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Oh, quite some time ago. Had I known you would want details, I would have made a record of it.
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12 Aug 2012 14:21 #70085
by Alexandre Orion
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At first, I avoided this ...
It doesn't matter when it started, nor does it matter if it ends or not.
A true 'master' does not claim to be a master. A true master does not 'explain' or 'convince' of their mastery. The mastery of the master is evident in behaviour, in discretion, in subtlety ...
Mastery is effective utility and service, not celebrated successes, titles nor glory.
Furthermore, a master is righteous, not self-righteous.
Caligula made his horse a senator. Given graciously all the pomp and splendour, all the recognition that one gives a senator, the horse, 'tis sure, gave apt counsel to the assembly ...
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It doesn't matter when it started, nor does it matter if it ends or not.
A true 'master' does not claim to be a master. A true master does not 'explain' or 'convince' of their mastery. The mastery of the master is evident in behaviour, in discretion, in subtlety ...
Mastery is effective utility and service, not celebrated successes, titles nor glory.
Furthermore, a master is righteous, not self-righteous.
Caligula made his horse a senator. Given graciously all the pomp and splendour, all the recognition that one gives a senator, the horse, 'tis sure, gave apt counsel to the assembly ...
A/O
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12 Aug 2012 15:30 #70089
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Is there nowhere a person can go without being subject to this stupidity?
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12 Aug 2012 15:46 #70094
by Jon
The author of the TOTJO simple and solemn oath, the liturgy book, holy days, the FAQ and the Canon Law. Ordinant of GM Mark and Master Jestor.
Replied by Jon on topic Re: Announcement From Charles McBride
I find this amusing especially the growing number of recent postings about whether this or that person is a true Jedi or master or not. It beginning to sound like the witch hunts of old where the witch hammer and its authors decided who was a witch or not, or like one of those modern day job profiles posted in the press. I mean we are on line here, with the exception of the odd meeting, no one really knows the other except from what the speaker decides to reveal. So how on earth can anyone here tell really who is really a true Jedi or master here. How can the truth of what a Master is be defined in words formulated in our brains, if only really through personal experience. And would we really learn very much from a master if s/he behaved or taught in the way we expected him or her to?
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12 Aug 2012 16:57 #70108
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re: Announcement From Charles McBride
Mastery and wisdom come in many guises...yet vanish easily once emotions run rampant...
As has been pointed out before one order or another does not have a monopoly on mastery...nor can one order or another set a universal definition of what is or isn't a master....we each have our own ideals, and sometimes they just happen to match with others...
Things have been said and done that many may or may not agree with, but that's the beauty of the past...it's past...gone and over with...behind us in time....so it should be easy to simply keep moving forward instead of stumbling backwards and causing others to tumble over...
As has been pointed out before one order or another does not have a monopoly on mastery...nor can one order or another set a universal definition of what is or isn't a master....we each have our own ideals, and sometimes they just happen to match with others...
Things have been said and done that many may or may not agree with, but that's the beauty of the past...it's past...gone and over with...behind us in time....so it should be easy to simply keep moving forward instead of stumbling backwards and causing others to tumble over...
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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12 Aug 2012 17:08 #70114
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Is it not possible for one of the Admin to close this topic? If it is, then I ask that you do.
The original post was made, it has been read and accepted. All that is happening now is arguing and occasional intelligent conversation.
I ask you close this to save further agruement and distress, I feel this whole situation is having a negative effect on the Order.
As for the occasional intelligent conversation, I'm sure if those involved wish to continue then they shall do so in a new topic.
Respectfully, Shao Kyras.
The original post was made, it has been read and accepted. All that is happening now is arguing and occasional intelligent conversation.
I ask you close this to save further agruement and distress, I feel this whole situation is having a negative effect on the Order.
As for the occasional intelligent conversation, I'm sure if those involved wish to continue then they shall do so in a new topic.
Respectfully, Shao Kyras.
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12 Aug 2012 17:11 #70116
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I have already asked for the subject to be dropped and have issued a forum-wide notice of behaviour here: http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/114-Council/70109-Notice-of-behaviour#70109
I will enforce it if necessary.
I will enforce it if necessary.
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