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20 Aug 2021 23:55 #362166 by WoodfordJedi
The author of the article i linked to makes some argument the force is real, i don't pretend to speak to the accuracy's of any of his observations.

Im sensing my attempts to contribute to the discussions disturbs you and shall withdraw.

My apologies

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21 Aug 2021 04:31 #362167 by Zero
No need to apologize woodfordjedi…I think there is some background you should have about us before you continue this topic. What the vast majority of us practice here involves the “real “ world. We have various religious backgrounds, but a lot of us have strong science backgrounds as well. We get many people here every year claiming to be psychic, have telekinesis powers of some type, even some who claim to have the dark side force lightning. And not one of them can prove it.

As you can imagine, it’s very disheartening to members of a legally and federally recognized religion and church to have people show up who can’t seperate Star Wars fiction from reality. We even had a guy once claim to get visions from emperor palpitine ( who was orbiting earth in his space ship).

We take what we do here very seriously, and just want to be sure you do as well. We do have thi chi practitioners, reiki masters, Buddhist, and Christians here, and we respect their beliefs……but the line for most of us gets drawn when people start talking about magical powers to float objects across the room or lightning from their fingers……these things obviously put us in a very defensive mood.

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21 Aug 2021 09:39 - 21 Aug 2021 09:40 #362173 by WoodfordJedi

Zero wrote: No need to apologize woodfordjedi…I think there is some background you should have about us before you continue this topic. What the vast majority of us practice here involves the “real “ world. We have various religious backgrounds, but a lot of us have strong science backgrounds as well. We get many people here every year claiming to be psychic, have telekinesis powers of some type, even some who claim to have the dark side force lightning. And not one of them can prove it.

As you can imagine, it’s very disheartening to members of a legally and federally recognized religion and church to have people show up who can’t seperate Star Wars fiction from reality. We even had a guy once claim to get visions from emperor palpitine ( who was orbiting earth in his space ship).

We take what we do here very seriously, and just want to be sure you do as well. We do have thi chi practitioners, reiki masters, Buddhist, and Christians here, and we respect their beliefs……but the line for most of us gets drawn when people start talking about magical powers to float objects across the room or lightning from their fingers……these things obviously put us in a very defensive mood.


Thank You Zero, for your counsel and patience.

I claim no psychic powers, and the only time i heard Palpatine was at the movie theater.

I am deeply skeptical of all claims of supernatural things. Personally the scientific principle is the only method of navigating reality. things we cant explain are simply knowledge gaps, not ipso facto proof of the supernatural.

To me the universe is a mechanism that can be quantified and understood if viewed with curiosity and honesty.

I hope this worldview is acceptable in Jediism

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21 Aug 2021 13:44 #362176 by Manu

WoodfordJedi wrote: I'm sensing my attempts to contribute to the discussions disturbs you and shall withdraw.

My apologies


By all means carry on, if these discussions disturbed me I wouldn't have posted. I apologize if my response seemed dismissive.

As a disclaimer, I do believe some "supernatural" phenomena is real, as I have experienced things I can't explain, and it's made me realize that there is a whole lot of things out there that I ignore. However, I have lost a considerable amount of time in the past pursuing such things, only to realize that

A) I was making a faulty generalization by assuming that because some "psychic" phenomena may be real, all psychic phenomena out there must be real.

B) There are better uses of my time and focus (Eastern thought itself cautions Siddhis to be distractions from the path)

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21 Aug 2021 14:59 #362179 by dwagoonie
my work in the energy community has shown that there are no "super powers" or "psychics", but links between people who can empathically feel other people and get clips of information from other people. There's nothing psychic or super about it. It's empathic human connection.

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21 Aug 2021 23:26 - 22 Aug 2021 00:34 #362194 by WoodfordJedi

Manu wrote:

WoodfordJedi wrote: I'm sensing my attempts to contribute to the discussions disturbs you and shall withdraw.

My apologies


By all means carry on, if these discussions disturbed me I wouldn't have posted. I apologize if my response seemed dismissive.

As a disclaimer, I do believe some "supernatural" phenomena is real, as I have experienced things I can't explain, and it's made me realize that there is a whole lot of things out there that I ignore. However, I have lost a considerable amount of time in the past pursuing such things, only to realize that

A) I was making a faulty generalization by assuming that because some "psychic" phenomena may be real, all psychic phenomena out there must be real.

B) There are better uses of my time and focus (Eastern thought itself cautions Siddhis to be distractions from the path)


Thank You Manu.

As a bit of background that i think you will appreciate, i was at the Sydney book launch of "Other temples, Other gods" in 1980
www.goodreads.com/book/show/4806041-other-temples-other-gods

And was active in the community that it was based on, Wicca, The order of the golden phoenix, an OTO style order. Astral projection, etc etc.

Like you i invested a considerable amount of time and energy on the topic, with identical results it would seem.

Personally i found no evidence of Psychic phenomena although like you i saw some things ive yet to explain, but i put that down to a knowledge deficit, not an example of the supernatural.
Mileage will vary, but thats my view.

Although i did enjoya technique called "The lessor banishing of the Loo" as a form of sympathetic Magick, Its effect if anything speaks to me of a good way to manage stress, and for the believer im sure it works as, If nothing else a manifestation of the placebo effect.

I wont post its format here But will happily share it via PM for those who want a giggle.

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21 Aug 2021 23:34 #362195 by WoodfordJedi

dwagoonie wrote: my work in the energy community has shown that there are no "super powers" or "psychics", but links between people who can empathically feel other people and get clips of information from other people. There's nothing psychic or super about it. It's empathic human connection.


My own take is very similar.
Ive found ive developed a deep sense of situational awareness. But i dont consider it a superpower, but rather perhaps the regaining of something lost to modern humans.
Wild animals seem to have the same sensitivity, and where i live is teeming with wildlife.

Ive come to know when a hawk is near, long before i can see it. The woodland ducks that freeload on my pond, the cockatoos and other birds all undergo a subtle shift in behavior, and sure enough when i look there is the hawk or eagle cruising for lunch.
Even the lizards know and ive become sensitive to all of these animals ton the point i am part of their network and share their reading of the environment.
I can tell where a snake is in the yard in the same way, even if it cant be seen. The animals all share intel with each other when a predator is near.

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