Hey! Let's Open The Vaccination Can Of Worms!

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09 Mar 2015 00:08 #183553 by Brenna

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Brenna wrote: Its about the compromises we are willing to make.


There is absolutely no reason to compromise, we can indeed make vaccines without using mercury based preservatives.



yeah. And we do. So whats the problem?



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09 Mar 2015 00:11 - 09 Mar 2015 00:16 #183555 by

Brenna wrote: you were discussing thimerosal, not dimethyl mercury.


While perhaps not as potent as dimethylmercury it's still in the same family as form of organomercury, and is still a potent neurotoxin.

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Brenna wrote: yeah. And we do. So whats the problem?


The problem is we still produce vaccines that contain Thimerosal, even though other options are available.

The second part of the problem is this situation is not going to change till enough people stand up and demand it.
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09 Mar 2015 00:16 - 09 Mar 2015 00:16 #183559 by Brenna

Red_Eye_Jedi wrote:

Brenna wrote: you were discussing thimerosal, not dimethyl mercury.


While perhaps not as potent as dimethylmercury it's still in the same family as form of organomercury, and is still a potent neurotoxin.



Not the point. Its not dimerthylmercury, which is well recognised as highly toxic, so using its as an argument (scare tactic)for a compound that does NOT have the same toxicity is ineffective.

Tomatoes are from the same family as tobacco. Should I be worried about them being toxic too?



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09 Mar 2015 00:24 - 09 Mar 2015 00:26 #183560 by

Brenna wrote: argument (scare tactic)


Brenna, it's not my opinion that Thimerosal is a potent neurotoxin, it's a statement of fact.

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Brenna wrote: Should I be worried about them being toxic too?


You absolutely should be concerned with the neurotoxicity of thimerosal. You don't even need to ask.
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09 Mar 2015 00:27 #183561 by Brenna

Red_Eye_Jedi wrote:
The problem is we still produce vaccines that contain Thimerosal, even though other options are available.

The second part of the problem is this situation is not going to change till enough people stand up and demand it.



Yes. Its considered a worthwhile risk (especially as there is still zero concrete evidence of anyone actually being negatively affected by these thimerosal containing vaccines, allergies excluded) And please, don't repost the same videos and studies you've already linked. We've all read them and watched them and still aren't buying it.



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09 Mar 2015 00:30 - 09 Mar 2015 00:30 #183563 by Brenna

Red_Eye_Jedi wrote: argument (scare tactic)

Brenna, it's not my opinion that Thimerosal is a potent neurotoxin, it's a statement of fact.




nuh uh.... no twisting now. :P that's not what I said and you know it.

Brenna wrote: Should I be worried about them being toxic too?

Red_Eye_Jedi wrote: You absolutely should be concerned with the neurotoxicity of thimerosal. You don't even need to ask


Im not actually. But that wasn't my point... but you know that too ;)



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09 Mar 2015 00:36 - 09 Mar 2015 00:37 #183565 by

Brenna wrote: Its considered a worthwhile risk


Again there is no reason for it to be. We most certainly can make vaccines without mercury based preservatives.

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Brenna wrote: still zero concrete evidence


That's not true at all. The past 10+ pages have been nothing but study after study, showing exactly how neurotoxic this stuff really is.

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Brenna wrote: still aren't buying it.


There is nothing for you to buy. People die when they fall from 25000 feet and make contact with the ground. It's not an opinion.
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09 Mar 2015 00:42 #183567 by RyuJin
it's not the fall that kills them, it's that sudden stop at the end :woohoo:

and not all fall...there have been survivors...not to mention parachutes tend to offer protection to many

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09 Mar 2015 00:43 - 09 Mar 2015 00:44 #183568 by Brenna

Red_Eye_Jedi wrote:
That's not true at all. The past 10+ pages have been nothing but study after study, showing exactly how neurotoxic this stuff really is.

There is nothing for you to buy. People die when they fall from 25000 feet and make contact with the ground. It's not an opinion.


And study after study after study proving the safety of the vaccines. Including a large scale study done on almost 37 thousand children with zero evidence that the thimerosal levels in vaccinations cause any issues at all.

yeah, jumping from 25000 feet without a parachute is pretty likely to kill you. How many people have died from vaccinations? (and another irrelevant comparison)



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09 Mar 2015 00:56 #183569 by

Brenna wrote: And study after study after study proving the safety of the vaccines.


Vaccines are safe. Thimerosal is a potent neurotoxin.

Both statements are true.

The brain has an amazing ability to reroute around damaged areas.

You can cut out half a persons brain and they can adapt and continue to live a mostly normal life.

This however doesn't mean it's a good idea inject yourself with some of the most potent neurotoxins we have ever discovered if you have the option not to do so.
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