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04 Jul 2022 16:48 #369136 by Diana W
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NPR: How period tracking apps and data privacy fit into a post-Roe v. Wade climate
www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1097482967/roe-v-...abortion-period-apps

THE GUARDIAN: Why US women are deleting their period tracking apps
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/28/wh...period-tracking-apps


VICE: Here’s What Period Tracking Apps Say They Do With Your Data
www.vice.com/en/article/qjkpbq/period-tr...-data-privacy-safety


PROTOCOL: Period-tracking apps store users’ most private data. What will that mean in a post-Roe world?
www.protocol.com/policy/period-tracking-apps-abortion-laws


FLO (Period App) Policy
flo.health/privacy-policy#:~:text=When%2...ociated%20with%20you .


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04 Jul 2022 17:02 #369137 by Diana W
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NPR: The Supreme Court could radically reshape elections for president and Congress
www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109275691/the-su...esident-and-congress


The Guardian: US supreme court case could give state politicians huge power over elections www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/30/...ections-legislatures


Bloomberg: Supreme Court to Weigh Election-Law Overhaul in Voting-Map Case
news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/suprem...l-in-voting-map-case


NBC: The Supreme Court case voting rights experts say could bring 'chaos' to elections
www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/s...-elections-rcna34033


SCOTUSBLOG: Moore v. Harper
www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/moore-v-harper-2/


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04 Jul 2022 17:03 - 04 Jul 2022 17:06 #369138 by Zero
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None of those say that the government can or would use a period tracking app to confirm a pregnancy…

And again, even if they did…..it’s not illegal to get pregnant. It’s a period tracker not an abortion tracker. Not everyone who gets pregnant has an abortion. And two, it’s just a calendar, not a medical device. They only go off info you put in them. I could download the period tracker right now and put in it that I’m on my period right now….and I’m a guy. I’ll also re state that there are thousands of medical reasons for a woman to miss her period. Even changing your diet can throw your period off by weeks. Do you really think swat teams are gonna be kicking in peoples doors to arrest women who joined weight watchers and it threw there period off or stoped it for a few months.

And none of those cases u listed in your second post are about abortion. They involve supreme courts yes…..but not an all powerful national abortion bill….and most are going through state supreme courts not the federal ones.

The last thing I will add to this thread is a word or caution. Just because somone writes a newspaper or magazine article about a topic DOES NOT MAKE IT A FACT! I can show you papers written by current collage professors that say the world is flat. I Can show you newspaper articles about people being murdered who are very much alive. It was announced on a local radio station that I served in the marine corps, and you all know I was army. My point is just because someone writes about something dosnt not make it government policy or even true.

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04 Jul 2022 17:08 #369139 by Rosalyn J
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Zero is right

Plenty of media use scare tactics primarily because of the way the human brain works, especially in the age of social media


Click Bait is a thing

We just have to be diligent and educated

Read the TOS

And remember that HIPPA exists as well

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04 Jul 2022 17:18 #369140 by Diana W
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KHN: Will States Try To Ban Women From Traveling At All To Abortion-Rights States?
khn.org/morning-breakout/will-states-try...rtion-rights-states/


Washington Post: Antiabortion lawmakers want to block patients from crossing state lines
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/...bortion-state-lines/


WebMD: Abortion Opponents Don't Want Patients Crossing State Lines
www.webmd.com/women/news/20220630/aborti...crossing-state-lines


SCOTUSBLOG: Returning regulation to the states, and predictable harms to health
www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/returning-reg...ble-harms-to-health/


Fox Rothchild: The Supreme Court’s Dobbs Ruling Creates a Variety of Significant Legal Issues
www.foxrothschild.com/publications/the-s...ificant-legal-issues


PrisonPolicy: What the end of Roe v. Wade will mean for people on probation and parole
www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2022/06/30/roe/


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04 Jul 2022 17:19 #369141 by Diana W
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Fine ... whatever ...

have a nut


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04 Jul 2022 17:25 #369142 by Rosalyn J
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They cannot do any of that stuff unless we let them

Which is why informed voting is so important

Don't get me wrong, when they shove all that leagalease in my mailbox my head explodes. I do try to read and make informed choices

Thank you for the articles. I'll read them

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04 Jul 2022 17:38 - 04 Jul 2022 17:38 #369143 by Silenus
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I'm just going to chime in here and say that police will 100% absolutely beyond any doubt take every scrap of information off of your phone that they legally can and try to use it in court. Yes, period tracking apps "require your input" but it also uses math over time to adjust its predictions to *YOU* and the accuracy of them for a large number of people can be a little scary. So yes, if they think you committed the crime of getting an abortion the following will happen:

1) They will subpoena your phone and emails and Facebook and all other platforms of communication they can figure out how to send a request to.
2) They will scour your text messages and instant messages and emails for any sign or language of pregnancy or planning for the illegal activity.
3) They will use this information in court in addition to dragging your OBGYN into court to confirm the information. Remember, the more ways they can say the exact same thing, the more likely they are to sway a jury... the whole point of going to court.
4) Anything that isn't encrypted and/or password protected is fair game. Biometrics are essentially meaningless. Court precedent currently says that if it's physical, it can be compelled, but *CURRENTLY* you cannot legally be compelled to enter in a password or code to unlock something.

So yes, there is a lot of reason to be concerned about the personal medical information you are using on your phone. Dismissing these concerns is careless at best. At the moment, it looks like straight up gaslighting. But that's just my couple cents.
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04 Jul 2022 17:49 #369144 by Silenus
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America has been in a pretty bad spot for a long time now. Religious extremism has been gaining more and more ground in the country since the 80s. It's been sad to see and know that essentially nothing can be done because the system is "operating as intended." They've had since 1973 to fix it. And have done almost nothing. I have pretty much zero faith at this point in the united states taking steps to protect human rights at this point. Right now you have one party who actively works against human rights and civil liberties unless they're a very specific white, "christian*" sort of human right or civil liberty. And the other party doesn't want to actually be political, they want to be "bipartisan" and "reach across the isle" and get played for the suckers they are *EVERY TIME*. Then they turn around and Mr. Magoo it all over again the next time they get in power.

The election system at its very core is so corrupt and broken that it's a mathematical impossibility for a legitimate third party to exist without the implosion of one of the two existing parties, and at that point you just guarantee that the other side always wins.

All of the steps that need to be taken to fix and address even the most basic of problems here requires the people who benefit the most from them not changing to change them. So they fight against it because they know they can completely stall and derail everything until they cheat their way to another super majority and take every possible loophole and cut corner to cram in every last thing they can to take even more away from you in the name of their religion and corporations.

So yeah. Not a big fan. Haven't been for a long time now. And when I see someone running around with a flag wrapped around them all lovey-dovey, they deserve some of the most serious suspicion. Because more often that not it is a facade to justify the terrible ways they treat the other people around them.

* - Their views an beliefs are so incredibly unchristian that it's almost funny. if their bigotry wasn't so incredibly dangerous to everyone else around them.

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04 Jul 2022 17:50 - 04 Jul 2022 18:01 #369145 by Zero
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Getting pregnant does not equal had an abortion. Missing your period does not equal had an abortion. Skipping a period does not equal had an abortion. Entering menopause does not equal had an abortion. Loosing your period does not equal had an abortion.

Your period is what’s tracked. Personally, I’d never store health info like that on my phone.

I guess my point is that the government has better things to do than to track 1 billion womens periods. Half of which can still perfectly leagally get an abortion whenever they want. I agree with selinus in that if they had info, yes they would use it(or try too). But there’s not ever gonna be a period tracker task force sitting around watching for who’s had there period on time this month and who hasn’t, then calling the fbi to consult your obgyn before sending the police to kick down your door.

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