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04 Jul 2022 02:11 #369098 by Br. John
I'm wondering if there was the impression that we could not discuss human rights violations if they are the responsibility of The US Supreme Court. We can.

Is anyone else sick with disgust these days?

How many of you are now an incubator with less rights than a clump of cells?

And what are we, as guardians of justice, going to do about it?

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04 Jul 2022 02:14 #369099 by Rosalyn J
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By your leave


Do you think it is wise to send letters to the SCOTUS as a Temple?

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04 Jul 2022 02:26 #369100 by Alethea Thompson
I personally believe we have more power as individuals than as a Temple sending letters.

That said, I think the focus should be off SCOTUS and more towards our local governments. SCOTUS has made their decision, and will need another case to make a new judgement. But it will take time for new blood to get in and reinstate the ruling.

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04 Jul 2022 02:28 #369101 by Rosalyn J
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California...for now....is safe

What's the next best step for me and others

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04 Jul 2022 02:33 #369102 by Br. John
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I can't imaging letters doing any good. Roberts all but begged the hateful five to only allow the 15 week ban but not go further.

Besides voting,and that means voting in state and national elections, here are some interesting ideas.

www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/jewish-abo...uit-access-rcna34178

www.vox.com/2022/7/3/23190408/judaism-ra...-reproductive-rights

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04 Jul 2022 02:35 #369103 by Alethea Thompson
For states that are currently safe, simply to ensure you turn out to local elections and vote for people whom are fighting for basic human rights. California has a large Red swath of land, it’s also home to a a popular (yet controversial) Charismatic church whom I’m sure will feel emboldened by this decision and encourage more turn out at elections to see “God’s law” implemented.

People need to stand up to counter those whom fight for theocratic causes.

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04 Jul 2022 02:41 #369104 by Rosalyn J
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Quite a few Charismatic churches of which I was a part of one

As far as I know, the best way to hault that agenda is to gault the money that goes to it.

The sneaky way they do it is by setting up businesses, networking within the church and keeping the money within those businesses that are fans of those ideas. Those businesses then donate to candidates

Yeah but they've had this agenda for a long long time

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04 Jul 2022 06:04 #369111 by ren
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I... don't think of abortion as a human right.

Note that I am not against it for reasons I have explained before. That being said the pro choice camp ought to choose something other than 'my body' as an argument. It is repulsive. And someone ought to invent parentless birth.

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04 Jul 2022 06:43 #369112 by Diana W
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I see ... well then you don't have the full scope of what is going on.

* No abortion means:
* * Death on the birth bed
* * That 11 year old girl forced to have sex and is now pregnant, has to have a baby
* * That physically abused wife/girlfriend who becomes pregnant, has to have a baby WHILE still being physically, mentally, emotionally abused
* * miscarriages are under the same medical code as abortions
* * * women who have miscarriages can be charged for murder
* * Birth control would be seen as "intention of abortion"
* * * highly regulated birth control on women
* * * Birth control is more than just not getting pregnant, it is about hormone balance as well
* * * Birth control is more than just not getting pregnant, it is about controlling certain diseases as well

Social Consequences
* Women being tracked on their phone
* * So they can't go to an abortion-friendly state
* * Period apps track when you have periods and when you don't
* State to state road blocking methods
* * Pregnancy tests before going into an abortion-friendly state
* * Pregnancy tests returning home to make sure you're still pregnant

Other Parts of The Abortion Ban Bill
* You can now carry a concealed gun without a permit
* Listing of bills to be looked into
* * LGBTQ rights are in this abortion bill
* * Black rights are in this abortion bill
* * Gun control (lack of) is in this abortion bill
* * Re-distribution of voting regions to favor republican voters is in this abortion bill
* * Allowing Electoral Collage to decide the next president despite popular vote count

SHALL I GO ON ABOUT HOW "UNIMPORTANT" THIS IS????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


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04 Jul 2022 06:44 #369113 by Diana W
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... and I dare say ... you consider yourself a "jedi" ... council member at that.

That in itself pisses me off with your dismissive lack of information


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