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19 Dec 2015 18:02 - 19 Dec 2015 18:24 #214595 by OB1Shinobi
Sven, would it bother you if your wife never changes her views about Jediism?

do you feel she is rejecting YOU if she doesnt believe in being a Jedi herself?

also, does it bother your wife that you dont believe in Jesus the way that she believes in Jesus?

does she feel rejected by you believing differently from her or resentful towards you for believing differently?

People are complicated.
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19 Dec 2015 18:23 - 19 Dec 2015 18:24 #214601 by Eleven
Perhaps I have presented this in the wrong manner. It's not a matter that I want her to believe what I am preaching or that I am somehow trying to convince her my ways are better or anything but, I am more or less not understanding when I am in mediation, I wear a Jedi robe in public, when I spend time in my studies I feel attacked. She wants me to give up my beliefs for her own....gosh at this point I don't know maybe I am looking at this wrong...would, it bother me if she never changes no I don't ask for her to I love my wife like she is I just don't feel respected by her.

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19 Dec 2015 18:37 #214602 by

Sven One wrote: Perhaps I have presented this in the wrong manner. It's not a matter that I want her to believe what I am preaching or that I am somehow trying to convince her my ways are better or anything but, I am more or less not understanding when I am in mediation, I wear a Jedi robe in public, when I spend time in my studies I feel attacked. She wants me to give up my beliefs for her own....gosh at this point I don't know maybe I am looking at this wrong...would, it bother me if she never changes no I don't ask for her to I love my wife like she is I just don't feel respected by her.


Is it so important for you to wear Jedi Robes in public? If it bothers her why are you doing it? They are just robes. Where them at a convention or when shes not around.

If watching you meditate bothers her, then why not do it alone in private? I don't even meditate with my husband because his energies are too firey for me.

The key to successful marriages is to be adaptive to each others differences.

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19 Dec 2015 18:49 #214605 by Eleven
I understand that and I have less often haven't worn it for her sake. Secondly, I do it in private mediation. She just doesn't like that I do it.

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19 Dec 2015 18:56 #214606 by

Sven One wrote: Secondly, I do it in private mediation. She just doesn't like that I do it.


Have you offered for her to join? Is it, perhaps, that she dosn't like that you do things alone? Have you tried looking together for Catholic centric Meditations? Have you, together, researched the history of Meditation? If so, you will find that Christians have a rather large (large) practice in meditations. Have you, together, spoken with a medical professional about Meditations?

It sounds to me like the only reason why she dosn't like it....is because she dosn't understand what it is :)

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19 Dec 2015 19:14 #214608 by Eleven
Yes, I have asked her if she would like to explain all the great benefits of mediation, ect. Look...the church were associated with is the United Pentecost Church International. They are a very legalistic church organization if you would call it that. They don't watch TV, movies, cut their hair(women), the women arent allowed to wear pants, ect, ect. Very legalistic. She believes in following the Bible and Jesus Only. If it's not in The Bible she or The Pastor isn't interested.

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19 Dec 2015 19:38 #214610 by

Sven One wrote: If it's not in The Bible she or The Pastor isn't interested.


Joshua 1:8 - This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Psalms 1:2 - But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Psalms 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Psalms 119:15 - I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.

Psalms 104:34 - My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD.

Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

Proverbs 4:20-22 - My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. (Read More...)

Psalms 119:97 - MEM. O how love I thy law! it [is] my meditation all the day.

Psalms 49:3 - My mouth shall speak of wisdom; and the meditation of my heart [shall be] of understanding.

Isaiah 26:3 - Thou wilt keep [him] in perfect peace, [whose] mind [is] stayed [on thee]: because he trusteth in thee.

Matthew 6:6 - But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Psalms 119:127 - Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.

Psalms 1:1-6 - Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (Read More...)

Psalms 119:48 - My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes.

Psalms 119:11 - Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

Psalms 63:6 - When I remember thee upon my bed, [and] meditate on thee in the [night] watches.

Psalms 119:1-127 - ALEPH. Blessed [are] the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD. (Read More...)

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Meditation/


In the end only you can find a solution to this....and it may be that it is not a relationship you are able to commit to? Find what it is that brought you together in the first place and build on that :)

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19 Dec 2015 19:47 #214615 by Eleven
Thank you. I think I am gonna step away for a few hours and mediate. Thank you everyone.

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19 Dec 2015 20:56 #214619 by Breeze el Tierno
An alternative take on the issue:

Thank her. She is concerned with your spiritual wellbeing and acting from the best of her understanding. So are you. So am I.

And, in the mean time, you have good training. It is uncomfortable, to be sure, to spend most of one's day in a crucible, but there it is. Allow your Path the be understood in terms of its fruits. You will have a chance to learn to stand alone on your Path. You can learn serenity and comfort in uncertainty. You'll always have the Temple for support, but these difficulties can be made into opportunities.

When I growl at someone at home, I must admit that I am not done with the teachings that environment offers.

Don't defend being a Jedi. The Path does not need defending. It just needs good Jedi. Who knows? In becoming a better Jedi, you may become a better Christian as well.
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20 Dec 2015 00:47 - 20 Dec 2015 02:08 #214649 by OB1Shinobi
well Sven, my thoughts are that you are going to have to:

give up being a jedi and accept that her particular flavor of christianity is THE TRUTH

or keep her convinced that you believe it - in other words: lie, and continue to lie for the rest of your time together

or

accept and prepare yourself for being married to someone who despises you

or

divorce her and live your own life (do you have kids?)

or

get the two of you into counselling ASAP (which is the one i recommend)

unless i am misinterpreting what youve told us, those are the options i see

but i dont always see everything and im happy to be wrong on this

youve indicated that "she believes in following the bible and jesus only - if its not in the bible, she- and the pastor, arent interested"

you also said shes very "legalistic"

when you used the word "legalistic" what came to my mind was the word "dogmatic"

maybe i am making assumptions here, but when i read your words i get the idea that what youre telling us is that your wife is a dogmatic religious fundamentalist

if thats not a correct interpretation then my conclusion is also not correct

but if it IS a correct conclusion then all i have to do is look to my own experience

ive known quite a few dogmatic fundamentalists in my personal sphere

and by definition they dont compromise and they dont accept alternative views

even if you could convince her that meditation is biblically justified, the bigger issue is her inability to accept that its ok for you to draw your own conclusions and have your own ideas about life and truth

if she is able to see this basic requirement for a healthy relationship, then you two can work it out

but if she was able to do that it seems we wouldnt be having this discussion

if she is not able to see this basic requirement, then your life with her is probably going to be miserable, and will probably end on bitter terms - or maybe youll just keel over ten or fifteen years earlier than you have to

i think you should find a marriage counsellor while it might still be possible that one could make a difference


oh and i would guess that you wearing the robes in public probably embarrasses her

to be honest, i think thats fair





also to Kit: i think it was cool that you took the time to find all those verses

i dont think it solves the bigger issue, but it surely couldnt hurt, and maybe it could help, and it was a nice thing to do anyway

People are complicated.
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