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OB1Shinobi wrote:

Fyxe wrote: Wow you guys are just trolls!

Incorrect. Each of us have years of active interaction with this community. I’m pretty good at criticizing and I've certainly ruffled some feathers over the years but i have genuine affection and respect for this place and im doing my best to contribute in positive and useful ways. I cant speak for Gisteron but observation leads me to believe that he would say the same thing for himself.

You attack anyone with different ideas than yours. I thought jedi were about inclusiative aspects of all reality but you guys just take the cake!

You can see this as an attack if you like but it would be better for all of us if you took it as an invitation, instead. I am inviting you to become more active here in a more personal way. Make an introduction and tell us a little bit about yourself here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Introduce-yourself

Take a look at our doctrine here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/doctrine-of-the-order

Check out the Initiate’s Program here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/initiateprogramme

Maybe start a journal here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/47-Journals

Or browse these forums and either open a new discussion (an actual discussion, not just a link to youtube videos) or enter into any ongoing discussion/s that seem interesting to you: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/index

Jesus Christ, im gonna have to quit drinking again. I meant the second part of this post to be directed to Flexibility.

Fyxe: being corrected or disagreed with is not the same thing as being attacked. This is a place of learning. If you dont have the ability to think critically and to evaluate evidence then most of what you think youve learned will end up being nonsense.

I'd say the only thing that bothers me is Flexibility's "New Age Bro" vibes. Very annoying, almost as bad as those damn vegans.

Now as far as these silly tones that I generally equate with pseudo-spiritual vomit, a study actually found that binaural beats at 6hz with a carrier tone frequency of 250hz induced a meditative state in participants.

Because of this, I use these exact binaural beats when meditating, and they really do make a difference.
SCIENCE B*TCH
(batch, like batch of cookies, what were you thinking?)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5487409/
ABSTRACT
"A binaural beat is a beat phenomenon that is generated by the dichotic presentation of two almost equivalent pure tones but with slightly different frequencies. The brain responses to binaural beats remain controversial; therefore, the aim of this study was to investigate theta activity responses to a binaural beat by controlling factors affecting localization, including beat frequency, carrier tone frequency, exposure duration, and recording procedure. Exposure to a 6-Hz binaural beat on a 250 Hz carrier tone for 30 min was utilized in this study. Quantitative electroencephalography (QEEG) was utilized as the recording modality. Twenty-eight participants were divided into experimental and control groups. Emotional states were evaluated by Brunel Mood Scale (BRMUS) before and after exposing to the stimulus. The results showed that theta activity was induced in the entire cortex within 10 min of exposure to the stimulus in the experimental group. Compared to the control group, theta activity was also induced at the frontal and parietal-central regions, which included the Fz position, and left hemisphere dominance was presented for other exposure durations. The pattern recorded for 10 min of exposure appeared to be brain functions of a meditative state. Moreover, tension factor of BRUMS was decreased in experimental group compared to control group which resembled the meditation effect. Thus, a 6-Hz binaural beat on a 250 Hz carrier tone was suggested as a stimulus for inducing a meditative state."

OB1Shinobi wrote: Fyxe: being corrected or disagreed with is not the same thing as being attacked.

disagree away but how did you get the authority to correct someone on their spiritual beliefs?

Fyxe wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: Fyxe: being corrected or disagreed with is not the same thing as being attacked.

disagree away but how did you get the authority to correct someone on their spiritual beliefs?

Good question. So you tell us. Who do you think one should ask permission to freely speek one's mind? Who decided that any "authority" was needed for that?

The authority of the temple or it would not happen i suppose. I just wonder if a less bossy way this could happen. like just because I have an experience and you dont does not make mine wrong.

Fyxe: you have the right to believe whatever you want but if youre just making assumptions aka making stuff up because it sounds cool and then telling other people that what you've made up is how reality actually works, why shouldnt someone point out where it doesn't make sense? You seem like youre very focused on proving certain beliefs; like you have to believe in magic powers and you have to believe in alternate realities and such. What i think some of us are trying to explain is that if you just decide to believe in something because you simply want it to be true, then you end up rejecting the real truth and building your world-view on falsehoods. its more useful and more important to learn how to find and evaluate data than it is to have any specific belief. You can believe in magic or not believe in magic as the data suggests. With an analytical mind you can build a set of beliefs that are based on whats actually true, rather than merely on what you like.

At some point you have to choose to pursue the real, actual truth, regardless of what it might be. This means letting the truth show you where youre wrong much more than it means proving yourself right. This is true for all of us.

That might go some way to explain why nobody here said that anyone else's experience was wrong. Not even once.

hmm, I told you i have evidence and you told me I was wrong, that I could not have evidence because i was in a fantasy. I think thats what happens. all I did was show some ideas i wanted to talk about like other places that we might not realize are actually there.

You all may be forgetting the difference between objective and subjective truth.

Try telling a die-hard bible-thumper that they are wrong.

Even if it is scientifically (objectively) invalid, they feel it to their bones that it is real, that it is true.

That is something you cannot take from someone through any logical or rational means, for it is a feeling, a belief, a faith that supersedes the mind, and it is very powerful.

Doesn't mean it is objectively true, but to them, it is as true as anything else.

And you should respect that, REGARDLESS of whether it makes sense to you or not.

Nobody said anyone's experience was wrong here, nobody said it in any of your threads, and I'm pretty sure nobody asked for this one to be made into yet another platform for your vacuous complaints either, Fyxe.

If you have something substantive to say, I'm all ears, by all means, but if you're just going to keep lying, please, at least have the decency to keep it where it belongs. Bad enough your story had to go as meta as to span well across multiple threads in the first place, no need to infest ones that didn't have to do with any of it, too.

lol kettle welcome to the pot black! I have yet to see a thread where you are not complaining about something!

Come on guys, there is no need for a "Spock vs. McCoy-esque" pissing match.

CaesarEJW wrote:
Even if it is scientifically (objectively) invalid, they feel it to their bones that it is real, that it is true.

This is very true Caesar, myself and others here are certainly guilty of this.

The issue of subjective/objective truths becomes more complicated however when one party claims to have 'evidence' of what we are assuming to be a 'subjective truth'. Evidence by its very nature should surely be objective otherwise it cannot prove anything to anyone outside of the individual's own head?

CaesarEJW wrote: And you should respect that, REGARDLESS of whether it makes sense to you or not.

I agree 100%. I'm not sure I've witnessed any real disrespect of ideas, only an express of frustration at the apparent lack of 'evidence' for said ideas.

That said, having already spoken to a number you privately, I will reiterate my calls for calmness and levelheadedness.

Fyxe wrote: ...all I did was show some ideas i wanted to talk about like other places that we might not realize are actually there.

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I have yet to see a thread where you are not complaining about something!

Whilst I empathise with your frustration at Gisteron's constant questioning (you're certainly not the first person to fall victim to this, and I highly doubt that you will be the last), the very act of posting an opinion (of any sort) in a public forum invites questioning and criticism of that opinion just as much as it invites support and agreement.

My apologies for any offense caused by mentioning binaural beats. I was only saying what had worked for me personally and not suggesting that they are the be all to end all.

sure brick I agree, however condescension and dismissal are not good ways to talk to others. and that is what he and others do. if you have a valid question please ask. if you have a counter idea please say it. but dont tease and bully. if thats all you can do I say just stay quiet.

There is an argument to be had as to whether ideas are actually due any respect. Like, fair enough, we can talk about to what extent people deserve or have earned it, what the minimum is we'd call decency, but I don't believe ideas have feelings, and if someone so deeply identifies with theirs that they feel personally attacked when ever their ideas are subjected to (frankly mostly mild and lenient) criticism, I don't find it to be the critics responsibility to try and walk around that, much less in advance. If someone is too attached to their ideas to have them scrutinized, then the public forum where open discussions of them ought be expected is perhaps not the place to put them... This used to go without saying just a few years back, now it seems so controversial that it keeps coming up every time anything of substance starts getting discussed until the actual topic at hand - just like this time - dies and gives way to this one and only meta-discussion. What happened? Why are we wasting our time with this instead of talking about, say, the medical, mental, or even spiritual benefits of specific sorts of music - and, as the case may be, the limits of such benefits? You know, the thing this thread was actually about until someone decided that it has to become all about fee-fees and egos like virtually half of all the interesting threads these days all are...

Sorry, I know people who make stuff like this and it's really just a marketing ploy. Most of them can create a music track like this in under an hour and they title it like that to get more views, thus more income.

I don't want to rain on your parade. I don't want to show any disrespect. But whatever you're getting out of these videos, that's coming from you. It's not because of the video or the sound. You may find meditation easier with some kind of music, and maybe even with a specific genre like this easy listening stuff, but it is no different than any other kind of music.

Meditating to music in general is fine, though. I play a few instruments and I meditate while playing them, for example. But please don't allow yourself to accept the illusion that these pieces of music are somehow special.

Thank you for pointing that out Rex about the multiple postings. And I thought it was just in one thread. There are many forums on this site with absolutely fascinating topics. Since I have not been to the site for very long, I had no idea that the same post was done in April.

I fail to see the benefit of posting it in several discussion forums - they should stick to one. Thanks again.

I really have nothing from posting this link.
I was inspired back in 2017 by the effects and benefits i got from binaural beats and "healing frequencies" from youtube. I just want to share the information with people so they can make use of sound healing and improve their lives in various aspects.
Sound healing is no joke. I would like some day to get some crystal singing bowls, they are amazing.
By the way, happy new year to everyone!

Fitting to ask at this moment ( I hope)

Does vibration therapy work ? Does any one actually have hands on results or a testimony about such practices? Does any one have other than first hand experiences? I truly am still wondering is all. So many new people ya never know what comes through the Temple gates every day.
Any one practice tones or vibration therapy or anything similar? Any one not ? Force continue to be with us all as we all seek it.