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The Force: "It Surrounds Us. It Penetrates Us. It Binds the Galaxy Together."
07 Apr 2013 02:20 #101806
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This has clearly been one of my most favorite scenes from any of the Star Wars movies, and I'm sure many of you would agree as well.
However, have any of you ever realized this - something very peculiar and questionable about this scene?
Obi-Wan describes the Force: "It Surrounds Us. It Penetrates Us. It Binds the Galaxy Together."
Aren't these words very aggressive and malicious words? To surround. To Penetrate. To Bind.
I just realized this when I was re-watching the scene recently. I was so engrossed in its pure awesomeness that I never before dissected it. Then I thought...."Wait a minute, Is it me, or do these words sound awfully evil?
Do you think this was an intentional decision by George Lucas?
Or an unseen connotation?
Thoughts?
This has clearly been one of my most favorite scenes from any of the Star Wars movies, and I'm sure many of you would agree as well.
However, have any of you ever realized this - something very peculiar and questionable about this scene?
Obi-Wan describes the Force: "It Surrounds Us. It Penetrates Us. It Binds the Galaxy Together."
Aren't these words very aggressive and malicious words? To surround. To Penetrate. To Bind.
I just realized this when I was re-watching the scene recently. I was so engrossed in its pure awesomeness that I never before dissected it. Then I thought...."Wait a minute, Is it me, or do these words sound awfully evil?
Do you think this was an intentional decision by George Lucas?
Or an unseen connotation?
Thoughts?
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07 Apr 2013 02:32 #101808
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Going with unseen connotation/ script . I don't think that lucas put that much ... depth...into a line from obi wan, a jedi, to another jedi.
I'm not beinng clear, its late and I'm very tired. But to recap, I think its an unseen connotation.
I'm not beinng clear, its late and I'm very tired. But to recap, I think its an unseen connotation.
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07 Apr 2013 02:32 #101809
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Replied by RyuJin on topic Re: The Force: "It Surrounds Us. It Penetrates Us. It Binds the Galaxy Together."
Air surrounds us, it penetrates us and has no maliciousness, or aggressiveness to it...
Mitochondria surround us, penetrate us, binds us, again with no maliciousness nor aggressiveness....simply symbiotic....
I think in the sense obi wan used it in was to present it in a loving embrace sort of way....
One sees or hears what one wants at a particular time...
Mitochondria surround us, penetrate us, binds us, again with no maliciousness nor aggressiveness....simply symbiotic....
I think in the sense obi wan used it in was to present it in a loving embrace sort of way....
One sees or hears what one wants at a particular time...
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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07 Apr 2013 02:33 #101810
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Interesting questions!! Bouncing off my last post in another thread, it could be to cover different modes of thinking to express the message to a broader audience; Extroversive intepretation (surrounded) for extroverts, introversis interpretation (penetrated) for introverts, sythesis (binds everything) as neutral analysis.
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07 Apr 2013 04:46 #101832
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The void...
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07 Apr 2013 07:41 #101842
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I think it was obi wan trying to simplify it for somebody who had no idea what the jedi or the force was. One theme I see at TOTJO is the question, we does the force end and we begin? we are one with the force, I think Obi wan was giving a simile like it is similar to it penetrating and surrounding us.
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07 Apr 2013 09:05 #101845
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Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
Replied by Whyte Horse on topic Re: The Force: "It Surrounds Us. It Penetrates Us. It Binds the Galaxy Together."
I think you're reading too much into being penetrated by force. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...
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