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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #192245 by OB1Shinobi
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these are the sorts of things i think of when i think "agendas in science"

"agendas" in a bad way that is - curing cancer is an agenda im ok with

http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/11593-monsantos-history-of-lies-and-toxicity

http://www.eatdrinkpolitics.com/2012/09/12/meet-the-scientific-experts-claiming-gmo-foods-are-safe/

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/21/climate-change-denier-willie-soon-funded-energy-industry

on this last one, notice who is saying what

http://www.thebestgrains.com/wheat-is-not-unhealthy-a-rebuttal-to-recent-claims

im not making a confident declaration that this last link represents intentional deception - only that it fits the profile

"Misconduct accounts for the majority of retracted scientific publications"

article here: http://www.pnas.org/content/109/42/17028.abstract

i found the above while reading this article "are scientists lying more than ever?"

http://www.itworld.com/article/2718456/enterprise-software/are-scientists-lying-more-than-ever-.html

People are complicated.
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OB1Shinobi wrote: these are the sorts of things i think of when i think "agendas in science"

"agendas" in a bad way that is - curing cancer is an agenda im ok with

http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/11593-monsantos-history-of-lies-and-toxicity

http://www.eatdrinkpolitics.com/2012/09/12/meet-the-scientific-experts-claiming-gmo-foods-are-safe/

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/21/climate-change-denier-willie-soon-funded-energy-industry

on this last one, notice who is saying what

http://www.thebestgrains.com/wheat-is-not-unhealthy-a-rebuttal-to-recent-claims

im not making a confident declaration that this last link represents intentional deception - only that it fits the profile

"Misconduct accounts for the majority of retracted scientific publications"

article here: http://www.pnas.org/content/109/42/17028.abstract

i found the above while reading this article "are scientists lying more than ever?"

http://www.itworld.com/article/2718456/enterprise-software/are-scientists-lying-more-than-ever-.html


Well here's your problem the monsanto corpation is a corpation and not part of the scientific community in any way shape or form. I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would think a corporation is science.

Now the stuff about papers being retracted. Individuals have an agenda to produce results to make their universities or bosses happy. Scientists are human and some may try to cheat the system ,but then their papers get peer reviewed to make sure there are not any agendas and that the information they are submitting is reproducible. Publishing a paper doesn't mean the scientific community accepts it. It only becomes accepted after other scientists can reproduce the paper and can't find any other reasons for the findings.

So let's be clear you should not trust a published paper just because it was published in a scientific journal, until after other scientists have reproduced the information and it then becomes accepted information. After that you should understand that information is the best information we have.

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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #192311 by OB1Shinobi
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there are scientists who work for monsanto and the company pays them to further the monsanto agenda
same as phillip morris

the thread is called "agendas in science"

ive given examples of scientists with agendas

maybe other people interpret the intent of this thread differently

maybe the intent WAS different

but the agendas i have linked to have helped to kill a heap ton of people so imo they are relevant

i hope this clarifies



EDIT
i forgot the climate change deniers
a lot of them should be inhere too

People are complicated.
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