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04 Sep 2013 21:02 #117267 by Alethea Thompson
Whyte, you've completely disproven your "fiat money isn't real".

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04 Sep 2013 22:07 #117275 by
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Kohadre wrote:

Donkey wrote:

Khaos wrote:

And the people who slightly above poverty are offended when they hear that poor people have internet or that prisoners get food and TV.


Yes, I get offended when a woman with 15 kids refuses to get a job and demands more from the government.

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You're offended by a scenario that you invented.


There was a guy in my area who had over 30 children, and is asking for a break in child support.


Why does this offend you?

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05 Sep 2013 05:09 - 05 Sep 2013 05:09 #117319 by Whyte Horse
Seems like a few people on here don't understand the social contract... Here's a special video for you people:

Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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05 Sep 2013 05:39 #117321 by Whyte Horse

Alethea Thompson wrote: Whyte, you've completely disproven your "fiat money isn't real".


Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.

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05 Sep 2013 14:29 #117384 by
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That guy in the video is great!!!! Totally out of his mind, but great!
I have so many questions for him, like...why is he in a car? Is this one video or does he have a series of videos? Is he related to "ouch Charlie you bit my finger!"?
I certainly hope he is a millionaire, I could watch him all day

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05 Sep 2013 16:24 #117390 by Wescli Wardest
My heart goes out to people like that poor guy in the video. He seems to be genuine in his efforts to help others out of the reality that he perceives; the reality that has him trapped and causes so much misery in his life. :(

I wish I could help people like that find a path away from their sorrows and anguish. How awful it must be to feel so alone and isolated from everyone else… the only one able to see a particular truth and not know how to cure the issue. :unsure:

I hope that people here know that there are members (the clergy)they can go to and talk with when the world seems to be so aweful or overwhelming.

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05 Sep 2013 17:30 #117403 by
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Wes,
Funny how two people can watch a video and see two totally different things.
You see a torchered human being and I see a colorful guy getting on his modern day soapbox.
You see isolation and I see art.
And the great thing is neither of us is right and neither of us is wrong!
Although I hope you are wrong and the guy is not isolated and in anguish.

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05 Sep 2013 18:20 #117411 by
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My heart goes out to people like that poor guy in the video. He seems to be genuine in his efforts to help others out of the reality that he perceives; the reality that has him trapped and causes so much misery in his life. :(

I wish I could help people like that find a path away from their sorrows and anguish. How awful it must be to feel so alone and isolated from everyone else… the only one able to see a particular truth and not know how to cure the issue. :unsure:

I hope that people here know that there are members (the clergy)they can go to and talk with when the world seems to be so aweful or overwhelming.


Indeed, and it is important to note that we do not all share the same chains.

Money can be a problem for some, but for others, its simply not.

Our "battles" to fight are seldom the same.

I suppose there is no harm in warning people away from the trap you see and possibly have experienced. However there needs to also be the understanding that it may not be a trap for you.

Kind of like one time, when a recovering alcoholic was lecturing me for drinking, but...I I didnt share his addiction.

I am mindful of his trap though and dont drink around him, or keep it out in front of him, etc.

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05 Sep 2013 23:33 #117432 by Whyte Horse
Some words from Daniel Suelo

Finding the Greatest Force in the Universe

This is the motivation I envision for a moneyless tribe, the motivation that trumps money. Where your heart is, there is your treasure. When your treasure is not elsewhere, not in the past or the future, but in the present, your heart is totally into what you are doing. "Do all things heartily as unto the Eternal Present." The Eternal Present is Lord over all. There can be no heart more powerful. Can a small tribe with this Strong Heart go over Jordan and conquer the land of Commerce? (Canaan means commerce, trade, and Canaanite means merchant, trader). Can a little guy conquer the Dragon of Leviathan (Leviathan the Dragon or Serpent symbolizes debt). Or is this an absurdity, wishful myths of the ancients? Who is willing to give up all treasures on earth, have all treasure in heaven, in the heart ("The Kingdom of Heaven is within you")? The Pure Heart is the Heart with no treasures on earth, the Heart which acts fully for the present, whose reward is in doing. The Pure Heart is the Strong Heart, the Divine Heart that conquers the delusional world.

You cannot work for both Reality and Mammon. You cannot work for both the Eternal Present and profit.
The word God can actually mean something other than the ridiculousness it has been imbibed with for centuries. The Eternal Present, beyond words. There is nothing and no one more powerful than the Eternal Present. Why work for anything or anyone else? I care not what you call it, even if you never ever use or like the word "God". It's better not to use or ever mention the word than to use it in vain. I don't hear that word used in vain as much as I do by droves of churches and politicians, even with zeal.

I love how the medieval Christian, Meister Eckhart, in his commentary on Jesus driving the merchants and moneychangers from the temple, used the word:

"...as long as we do any work at all for gain, as long as we desire anything God may have given or may give, we rank with these traders. Would you be free from any taint of trading with God? Then do what good you can and do it solely for God's glory, as free from it yourself as though you did not exist. Ask nothing whatever in return.... The traders are driven from the temple and God is there alone when one has no motive but God. See your temple cleared of traders. The man who is intent on God alone, and on God's glory, is truly free from any taint of commerce in his deeds..." [The Best of Meister Eckart, p. 44]

Do not all the religions teach this same principle?

When your religion is based on desire for heaven and fear of hell (credit and debt), you automatically will be the force behind commerce. When your religion is based upon even desire for enlightenment as future reward, you are going to be the force behind commerce, and you are the money-changer and merchant in the temple.

Conversely, when your religion is based upon love, you would rather love than go to heaven, and you give up all craving for future "salvation". You would forfeit heaven and go to hell for love. "Love" that desires to save its ass from hell and looks for heaven far away is not love. One day I realized the purpose of the concepts of heaven and hell--why such concepts exist. They are our test to prove our love. Love is not swayed, not burned or changed, but is refined by the fire of hell.

But "love" that desires heaven and fears hell is also a "love" obsessed with a Messiah in the past or a Messiah coming in the future, but cannot stand the idea of Messiah within, in the present. Such "love" cares not for the life of this earth, not for the environment, not for the animals and forests, not for the social justice of fellow human beings. Such "love" has no self respect, no personal responsibility. But such "love" parades itself in pious zeal. Love that is willing to forfeit its place in heaven for love's sake is the only love that exists. This is the only Love that casts away all fear--all fear of hell, all fear of others. Love realizes that the "Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," not some distant place and time, and that the "Kingdom of God is within you." Such love has no ulterior motivation, no desire to convert, no need to compete

Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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21 Nov 2013 08:31 - 21 Nov 2013 08:34 #125754 by
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NO not at all. there is no proper for anything other than what the masses agree upon and even that isnt proper in the sense that where one agrees others will disagree. Anyways, "the proper" is based upon your perception as to what you applying it too. If your looking for a way of standardization, like an order "to become this, you must become this" (this is a component that makes up a religion) then no i wouldn't agree to aestheticism to be such an important role because that would be living in an imagination. Unless however one agrees to continue to study and agree upon and accept what is realized and learned but if that were the case, the intelligent wouldn't be something to become something else, they would just become.

In other words, it doesn't make sense to deliberately follow a path, the true self just follows what is given. Their are no questions asked as to why but to whats next.
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