[Open Discussions] "Negro" and "Oriental" removed from (US) Federal Laws

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16 Aug 2016 02:42 - 16 Aug 2016 11:12 #252387 by Rosalyn J
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No, it won't. Its simply saying that in federal law, these terms will no longer be used. Please read the article that you have referenced it says in federal law the following words will be replaced:

Negro will become African American
Oriental will become Asian-American
Spanish-speaking will become Hispanic
Indian will become Native American
Eskimo and Aluet will become Alaska Natives

Again, this references federal law, not the speaking patterns of average Americans.

Edit: Sorry, didnt realize this was a rant. Still, just wanted to clarify
As it is, we have a long way to go, but this is a good start. As for how people identify in terms of heritage, ask them. I personally identify as Rosalyn
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16 Aug 2016 02:51 - 16 Aug 2016 02:54 #252388 by FTPC
yes it will Because when I get pissed a racist remark will fly and cuss words, verbally
and I hope trumps burn the bill because it takes away my FREEDOM of speech

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16 Aug 2016 03:00 #252389 by Leah Starspectre
Take it into a new thread if you want to discuss, please :)

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16 Aug 2016 03:33 - 16 Aug 2016 03:56 #252391 by FTPC
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16 Aug 2016 03:41 - 16 Aug 2016 03:55 #252392 by FTPC
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16 Aug 2016 11:18 #252433 by Jestor
Split....

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16 Aug 2016 11:26 - 16 Aug 2016 11:26 #252435 by Lightstrider
Hmm, I guess whenever those words are used in the law anywhere it will now seem a little less related to the negative historical contexts of the old words? Nothing wrong with that? Why thread exists?
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16 Aug 2016 11:57 #252438 by TheDude
How utterly pointless. I remember listening to Dr. King's speeches where the term "negro" was used with pride, as an alternative to the less respectful "colored". Which, as far as I can tell, was originally used as an alternative to the less respectful "n word", or so we're now expected to say, as if certain words themselves are automatically unacceptable. And yet these terms, such as "African American" are now being claimed by some to be racist, the term "people of color" being preferred as a less offensive alternative. Doesn't that sound familiar? Doesn't that make you sick? I wonder what new term we'll use in 20 years once "people of color" is decided to be racist. It is an idiotic and endless cycle of words replacing words replacing words, each time one suffering from the exact same issues of the previous ones. This kind of pointless language policing may appease the most social justice warrior-y among our government and citizens, but it absolutely does nothing to solve any issue, it is doomed to follow the example of the previous terms, and it is an utterly pointless and ridiculous thing which I'm disappointed that our elected officials have even wasted their time talking about when there are literally riots breaking out in the streets of our cities.

Does anyone want to guess what the next buzzword for dark skinned people will be? Here's for "biological human of historically African descent", since I think that would appease the language police for a few years longer than "people of color" might.

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16 Aug 2016 12:17 #252444 by Leah Starspectre

TheDude wrote: How utterly pointless. I remember listening to Dr. King's speeches where the term "negro" was used with pride, as an alternative to the less respectful "colored". Which, as far as I can tell, was originally used as an alternative to the less respectful "n word", or so we're now expected to say, as if certain words themselves are automatically unacceptable. And yet these terms, such as "African American" are now being claimed by some to be racist, the term "people of color" being preferred as a less offensive alternative. Doesn't that sound familiar? Doesn't that make you sick? I wonder what new term we'll use in 20 years once "people of color" is decided to be racist. It is an idiotic and endless cycle of words replacing words replacing words, each time one suffering from the exact same issues of the previous ones. This kind of pointless language policing may appease the most social justice warrior-y among our government and citizens, but it absolutely does nothing to solve any issue, it is doomed to follow the example of the previous terms, and it is an utterly pointless and ridiculous thing which I'm disappointed that our elected officials have even wasted their time talking about when there are literally riots breaking out in the streets of our cities.

Does anyone want to guess what the next buzzword for dark skinned people will be? Here's for "biological human of historically African descent", since I think that would appease the language police for a few years longer than "people of color" might.


In order for politicians to care, it has to have come from the people, so clearly a need was felt from the people to change the terminology.

Language evolves, and we need to evolve with it. Especially when it comes to terms that involve demeaning another group.

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16 Aug 2016 13:07 #252447 by Rosalyn J
That's the problem with labels. They evolve and people's feelings about them evolve over time. Nobody puts baby in a corner (if that makes sense). The box called (insert particular label concerning physical, mental, emotional, geographic, and/or spiritual features) does not fit everybody, but its easie(r) to simply shove them in a box (sometimes we even put ourselves there) than look at them as a person.

This law is a millimeter towards progress when it comes to labeling racial or ethnic groups in law, but its a long way from getting rid of labels entirely, which is what should ultimately happen

The law (federal in this case) does very little to change the way people talk and interact with one another. Case and point, I have been called retarded, cripple, handcicapped, deformed, and I have heard someone be called a stupid nigger (I'll never forget it). The law says we ought not to use at least some of those words

But, people are still going to be assholes. We (the people who will not be defined by our labels) have to make a conscious decision to stop giving these people the time of day. If we have the power, we need to move away from the relationship. If we dont have the power, we need to inform someone who does, for example, the police.

The reason why racial slurs are frowned upon can be summed up by this verse: "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Luke 6:45) and its not that far of a leap from a word to an action.
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