Whatever Happened to the Knights?

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28 Aug 2019 00:11 #342528 by Kobos
So, as an apprentice or whatever rank really what can we do to build this environment independent of the councils actions?

Sorry I know you are taking a lot of questions again thank you for indulging me.

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Fighting what you cannot see, will only lead you to lash out with violence towards everyone. Know your enemy, and you may find yourself a friend.

You can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile- Men without hats

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28 Aug 2019 00:18 #342530 by steamboat28
As apprentices, you can keep your knights accountable.
As initiates, you can ask questions, especially when you feel a ruling or action is unfair.
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28 Aug 2019 00:35 #342533 by Kobos
Thank you Steam! This was an excellent conversation please weigh in some more if and when you come up with anything else!

Any other Knights up to have a discussion?

Much Love,
Kobos

Fighting what you cannot see, will only lead you to lash out with violence towards everyone. Know your enemy, and you may find yourself a friend.

You can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile- Men without hats

TM:JLSpinner
TB:Nakis
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28 Aug 2019 00:52 #342535 by Jhannuzs Ian
Any perception about the quantity and quality of human values of all the posts is valid...

I propose that the action of feeding/reply the posts will be disabled from the website as an experiment of a couple of months or indefinitely. Because "Fighting in a forum" could be a distraction from an individual progress.

Knowing how to debate ideas is important, I agree, but if "statistics shows" that it is a distraction from individual progress, then learning the rhetoric of the debate could be left to closed rooms to people who do not take things personally, but at same way only admit people who respect and direct dialogues to build harmony, this is a Jedi website temple.

Closing the "activity to reply", could help that each person would focus on their own challenges, Jedi progress, journals, readings or inner development with the IP. The quality focus between teachers and apprentices will increase too. Instead of debating the debates about what the "newspaper at the main door of the TOTJO" brings to the spotlight towards the TOTJO "content statistics".

Behind the labels of Apprentices or Knights,
Humans we are, not just this dusty keyboards


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28 Aug 2019 01:11 #342538 by elizabeth

Jhannuzs Ian wrote: Any perception about the quantity and quality of human values of all the posts is valid...

I propose that the action of feeding/reply the posts will be disabled from the website as an experiment of a couple of months or indefinitely. Because "Fighting in a forum" could be a distraction from an individual progress.

Knowing how to debate ideas is important, I agree, but if "statistics shows" that it is a distraction from individual progress, then learning the rhetoric of the debate could be left to closed rooms to people who do not take things personally, but at same way only admit people who respect and direct dialogues to build harmony, this is a Jedi website temple.

Closing the "activity to reply", could help that each person would focus on their own challenges, Jedi progress, journals, readings or inner development with the IP. The quality focus between teachers and apprentices will increase too. Instead of debating the debates about what the "newspaper at the main door of the TOTJO" brings to the spotlight towards the TOTJO "content statistics".

Behind the labels of Apprentices or Knights,
Humans we are, not just this dusty keyboards


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I actually don't agree with this. There will always be things we take personally but isn't that an opportunity to grow and learn, however we engage in the forums it is a chance to choose how to act. Step back, think, or even not engage in certain threads.
Self control
Self regulation
We choose to participate and we personally choose to continue to learn or be distracted.
If we cut of the forums in a sense to all but a select few what exactly would we learn from that?
It's us that feed these threads... or us that let them die
We have a choice and às adults should be choosing wisely.

I never loose.


TM Karn
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28 Aug 2019 01:47 #342547 by Jhannuzs Ian
@Elizabeth

Hi Elizabeth, all your reasons won me, I withdraw my proposal, I was too drastic

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28 Aug 2019 11:39 #342627 by Tellahane
I can only check in every so often between my full time ambulance and I'm also covering for two others during the paramedic shortage in Illinois so I'm quite busy.
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28 Aug 2019 11:41 #342628 by Brick

Tellahane wrote: I can only check in every so often between my full time ambulance and I'm also covering for two others during the paramedic shortage in Illinois so I'm quite busy.


Glad to see you're still here Tom :)

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28 Aug 2019 18:19 - 28 Aug 2019 18:21 #342670 by RyuJin
I still pop in a few times a week, not nearly as often as i'd like to nor as nearly often as i used to. Working 80 hours a week takes a toll...

Nice to see you back liz :)

Trust me i do see all the gripes etc that get submitted, and i agree with a good many of them. Unfortunately we are so short staffed these days it's difficult to get to everything timely enough and with personality clashes etc `\_ :( _/´ there's only 4 of us in council now with carlos being the most visible....when we take action, we then get accused of being too authoritative etc...damned if we do, damned if we don't...even in council we don't always unanimously agree on things and have to constantly make sure we don't allow personal biases to influence decisions...

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29 Aug 2019 04:45 #342719 by Adder
Elephants need a lot of space, and the ones in this room are ren and Br John's 'management' style :D
It is their website though, so 'buyer beware' as they say.
Knights didn't have anything to carry their motivation out of Knighthood, as the Degree Scheme never really grew from where it was when I joined 8 years ago. So keen folk just found themselves floating around trying to help until getting burned by circumstance and deciding it wasn't worth there time. One could classify that as 'growing out of something' if they didn't have the vision to see the potential of that something to grow - but change management is hard work, and stagnation is much easier (organizationally speaking).
As for myself, I'm offline doing offline stuff, and not having a cell phone or computer at the moment means I get on rarely.

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