OK to disagree with an IP material?

Yes sir (snappy salute!)...

I am perhaps as loose in my speaking, as I am in my definition of the force, and everything else...

When I speak, literally speak, to a live person, I allow for the flow of the world, which is very hard to see in print...... I say things that upset ,my wife and frustrate her, lol, not to do it to be a snot, its just my nature...

She will ask, "Are this dishes dry?", and I will say "yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, etc"

To which she says, "What?"

I say, "Well, it is here, but not there, over here is, but this spot isnt"

Basically, it is not 100% dry, nor 100% wet (immersed in water)....

Yea, Im surprised I wake up somedays....

And, I am like this ALL THE TIME....

I try not to be sometimes, but, life is just so funny and interpretation so important, I like to play with words...

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Ok, what was the topic again?

As far as McTaggart, her science is flawed, but as was proven in this thread, this person (me, ..), and this sites defining, uh, hesitancy, (lol), sometimes, we just are telling a story, and trying to explain it the best we can...

That work?

Like the battle between creationists, and evolutionists, there is the battle between those who are very definite, and like their "i"s dotted, and "t"s crossed, and those who are a little looser, and like to cross the "i"s and dot the "t"s...

I am the second one, lol...

If everyone was loose, noone would really understand anyone.
If everyone was definite, everyone would really understand everything.
So its not so much that the definite can't appreciate the loose nature of others per se. Rather the definite is a way more effective way to communicate messages, even the loose ones. A crossed not-dotted "i" is a "t" and a non-crossed dotted "t" is an "i". Ha, but "timber" is a word everyone, loose or tight, understands while "itmber" ts someihtng netiher ihe loose nor ihe itghi do.
Accuracy isn't just a preference, but an advantage. There is reasons some insist on it and there are reasons communication runs smoother among those who maintain it at least when it comes to expression of the idea.
Although, to be fair, the accurate ideas about quantum mechanics or the zero point field help us explore the stars while fuzzy ones help us delude ourselves into thinking that wishing things into being works.

At the end of the day, the storytelling thing is a good thing when that's where it starts rather than where it closes. Sooner or later the definite should become paramount over the loose. That's why the definite ones immediately disagree with McTaggart's words. The loose ones sometimes spend time defending bits and piecs of her intentions to then admit they disagree with the words, too - for an "i" is an "i" and a "t" is a "t" and there is only so much sense arguing about it

Sooner or later the definite should become paramount over the loose.

You mean the weak minded?

Gisteron wrote: If everyone was loose, noone would really understand anyone.
If everyone was definite, everyone would really understand everything.
So its not so much that the definite can't appreciate the loose nature of others per se. Rather the definite is a way more effective way to communicate messages, even the loose ones. A crossed not-dotted "i" is a "t" and a non-crossed dotted "t" is an "i". Ha, but "timber" is a word everyone, loose or tight, understands while "itmber" ts someihtng netiher ihe loose nor ihe itghi do.
Accuracy isn't just a preference, but an advantage. There is reasons some insist on it and there are reasons communication runs smoother among those who maintain it at least when it comes to expression of the idea.
Although, to be fair, the accurate ideas about quantum mechanics or the zero point field help us explore the stars while fuzzy ones help us delude ourselves into thinking that wishing things into being works.

At the end of the day, the storytelling thing is a good thing when that's where it starts rather than where it closes. Sooner or later the definite should become paramount over the loose. That's why the definite ones immediately disagree with McTaggart's words. The loose ones sometimes spend time defending bits and piecs of her intentions to then admit they disagree with the words, too - for an "i" is an "i" and a "t" is a "t" and there is only so much sense arguing about it

This reminds me perfectly of a lecture by Alan Watts.

http://youtu.be/XXi_ldNRNtM

Vesha wrote:

Gisteron wrote: If everyone was loose, noone would really understand anyone.
If everyone was definite, everyone would really understand everything.
So its not so much that the definite can't appreciate the loose nature of others per se. Rather the definite is a way more effective way to communicate messages, even the loose ones. A crossed not-dotted "i" is a "t" and a non-crossed dotted "t" is an "i". Ha, but "timber" is a word everyone, loose or tight, understands while "itmber" ts someihtng netiher ihe loose nor ihe itghi do.
Accuracy isn't just a preference, but an advantage. There is reasons some insist on it and there are reasons communication runs smoother among those who maintain it at least when it comes to expression of the idea.
Although, to be fair, the accurate ideas about quantum mechanics or the zero point field help us explore the stars while fuzzy ones help us delude ourselves into thinking that wishing things into being works.

At the end of the day, the storytelling thing is a good thing when that's where it starts rather than where it closes. Sooner or later the definite should become paramount over the loose. That's why the definite ones immediately disagree with McTaggart's words. The loose ones sometimes spend time defending bits and piecs of her intentions to then admit they disagree with the words, too - for an "i" is an "i" and a "t" is a "t" and there is only so much sense arguing about it

This reminds me perfectly of a lecture by Alan Watts.

http://youtu.be/XXi_ldNRNtM

Gisteron/Vesha

the muse is inspired . . .

Yeah, looks like you were fine. Had that problem a few times with campbell and am actually writing on it right now. What did I do? I pointed it out lol and had to get my dusty old greek lexicon to cite...fun