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19 Oct 2014 22:34 - 19 Oct 2014 22:36 #165081 by
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And membership can be revoked...

Rather than outright bans this restriction allows former members to continue to contribute, where this is appropriate.
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19 Oct 2014 22:35 #165082 by Brenna
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tzb wrote: And membership can be revoked...


After an excessive amount of second chances.



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19 Oct 2014 22:36 #165083 by Zenchi
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Brenna wrote: Anyone can write an oath and not mean it.

Not everyone treats an oath with the seriousness it should imply.


I understand the point though. But someone who is not here to genuinely participate can easily take the oath, become a member and continue on with their agenda.

And we are back where we started.



Edit - Not to mention that I feel this could also further widen the gap between other Jedi communities and our own. We could not expect them to take an oath that is potentially not in alignment with their chosen group.


Precisely, wouldn't be easier to kick out members causing the drama to begin with, three warnings and your out kind of rule?

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Brenna wrote:

tzb wrote: And membership can be revoked...


After an excessive amount of second chances.


Do you mean based on previous form? What actual effect did revoking member status have before now?

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19 Oct 2014 22:40 #165086 by Zenchi
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No offense, it can be prettied up all you like, but it does seem (to me) to be excessive overkill to a problem that can be easily rectified...

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19 Oct 2014 22:41 - 19 Oct 2014 22:43 #165087 by
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I'm going to just put this here but...

If people have complaints please offer potential alternative solutions that will resolve the issues you have. If we make a change and people complain... but no one offers a different solution... then what exactly does one expect to happen?
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19 Oct 2014 22:43 #165088 by Zenchi
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Akkarin wrote: I'm going to just put this here but...

If people have complaints please offer potential alternative solutions that will resolve the issues you have. If we make a change and people complain... but no one offers a different solution... then what exactly do you expect to happen?


Just did so, the suggestion with the three strikes rule, and ban them, permanently. It'll get the message across...

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19 Oct 2014 22:50 - 19 Oct 2014 22:52 #165090 by Brenna
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Sorry Tzb, I dont really understand the question. *having a dim moment I think.

Akkarin, I have already done that.

The truth is this, there are ALWAYS going to be trouble makers and people we don't get on with. If they are that problematic and inclined to ignore the requests to adhere to rules and common civility, then what are they doing in our Temple in the first place.

Entry is a privilege, we should treat it as such.

We already have members only areas. Why create more forums? And more discomfort by making a very very clear Them vs Us announcement. Simply encourage people to use the members areas for topic that they don't want " outside" discussion on.

And perhaps we should put more effort towards helping those who ARE uncomfortable work through why and to resolve their frustrations.

I think this has been handled poorly, and is not to the benefit of our Temple in the long run.



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19 Oct 2014 22:50 #165091 by Amaya
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How about stepping in sooner to stop certain threads which cause arguments and heated discussions?
Having a moderator to approve the first couple of posts from guests which is a good part of changes.
The three strike rule Zenchi mentions is good
Even having the rule that you can be cut of from posting if behaviour continues for so many days is also good but rule for everyone maybe.

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19 Oct 2014 22:50 #165092 by RosalynJ
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I suggest we wait and see how this all works out. We may be blowing things a little out of proportion.
If anyone would like a thread moved to the new forum, ask a moderator. Otherwise, lets just see how this thing goes.

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