Can't be a Jedi if you support Trump...?

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30 Aug 2019 20:26 #342859 by Kobos
This is the warning I really didn't want to issue I figured one would be enough both will be banned if this continues in this direction niether comment was ok and I reinstated the orginal to discuss it to make that point. Though your comment can be seen as sarcasm (I really don't think your're all about Hitler) Action against both parties will be taken, one would not have happened with out the other. I was hoping this could be peaceable, and prove that the rhetoric is out of hand but alas perhaps I should have nuked the thread,

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30 Aug 2019 20:36 #342861 by
I don't think one Knight should represent the entire temple, just as one crazed Trump voter or supporter doesn't represent all of them, or how one crazed AOC or just left-in-general supporter represents all people who are on the left. Note I say left and not far left, as I consider them separate parties at this point.

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30 Aug 2019 21:15 #342864 by Kobos
So, one person never represents an entire group. This said if we can move on without any issues then let's do it.

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30 Aug 2019 21:20 #342866 by ZealotX

VixensVengeance wrote:

ZealotX wrote:

CaesarEJW wrote: "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"


Nice, I was trying to think of that exact quote but my brain betrayed me.



You are right, The key to victory is escalation, not dying for your cause but getting the other dumb bastard to die for his. How do you do that? By doing whatever it takes.

You seem incredibly passionate about addressing my posts and yet you have ignored Steams and not condemned or engaged him directly. He may have called Carlos a Nazi but he called anyone that supports Trump a Nazi as well. In fact he used the very idea of this quote. Do nothing against Trump and you are a Nazi. So be it, I will let the hate flow, why not. What difference does it make anyway? Knights are representatives of the very core of what this place stands for right? So this place condones the calling of others names like Nazi. So what reason do I have to act any differently? You can do nothing to stop me short of administrative action.


Actually, I did condemn what he said. You probably missed it.

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/open-discussions/122833-can-t-be-a-jedi-if-you-support-trump?start=70

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29 Aug 2019 20:49 #342795

I spent 2 pretty long posts defending the person that Steamboat targeted... which again... was mainly Carlos from what I read. In that I said no one here is a Nazi. I don't know how much more of a direct rebuttal I could make to the statement. As for responding to Steam directly (who left the thread), he wasn't the one I was worried about. Sometimes you have to focus on supporting your brother than chasing after the person who wronged him. And in doing so I can contradict an idea without specifically referencing or going after an individual. If you're looking for retaliation, just as you are a sith you have to keep in mind that I'm a Jedi. My goal is to separate people from bad ideas, not destroy them together. Now if Steam wants to debate his statements further then I will probably weigh in directly, but I'm sure once he has a chance to center himself that will probably prove unnecessary.
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30 Aug 2019 21:42 #342867 by JamesSand

No, IMO it is NEVER acceptable to call other members of this temple Nazis. No, IMO it is not OK.



Well, as far as it goes, I can be considered both a nationalist and a socialist....

it's a shame Nazi is a four letter word, because trying to explain my political position all the time is hard work :unsure:
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30 Aug 2019 22:18 #342868 by rugadd
I would say one person represents a group when the group puts them forth to do so.

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30 Aug 2019 22:43 #342870 by
But, with steam being the example, I don't think the temple TOLD him what to say. I assumed it was of his own volition. Thus, it's not how the whole temple feels about the topic, as further demonstrated by other members in this thread not taking the same stance.

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30 Aug 2019 22:52 #342871 by rugadd
That may be so, but how does the objective observer know that?

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30 Aug 2019 22:52 #342872 by rugadd
Unless they took the time to read this whole thread, ofcourse.

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30 Aug 2019 23:07 #342874 by
Sample size. If more people were calling Vixen a Nazi, then maybe I would be in agreement with the claim of everyone thinking that. You can't judge X amount of people based on just 1

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