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The Force: Mystical and Scientific?
I cannot say with quotation or any specifics about any of this because its been so long since I have researched ant of this and alot has gone on in my life that ive pushed it to the back if my mind. I have, however written some general articles about theories I have came up with about such topics. I am not finnished with the while set but in conclusion, I will say that "Gods, magic, demons, angels, the soul, and 'physical consciousness' all exist, but the energy I will refer to as The Force is what it all comes from and is where the universe and everything began. (I.e. The Force caused the Big Bang to occure and everytbing happen the calculated way it did)
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The title phrases the subject as a question, but the content reads more as a statement, a comment, really.
Is it your intention to engage discussion on Jediist perception of the Force (mystical, decidedly religious) compared with established, accepted science?
Or are you interested in other people's thoughts and opinions?
I apologize if I come off as interrogative, I just want a better idea of how to appropriately reply to the thread, or if I'm even meant to.
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Since you say in the very next passage that you do not at current have citations on hand, I shan't press you on any. While I do not understand what people mean when they speak of "other" dimensions (other than what?), if what you mean by gods and magic is anything like those terms' respective colloquial usages, then no, neither popular nor fringe interpretations or developments of quantum physics confirm in either theory or in experiment anything of the sort. Whether the same can be said of the Force, too, depends on what you mean by it, though seeing as there is difficulty establishing a standard definition of it in or outside the fiction, I shall suspend judgement until a working one for the purposes of this discussion is proposed.TvonEisan wrote: Just off the mainstream path of popular quantum physics are the pieces of fact put to theory that theoraticaly [sic] confirm the existance of things like other dimensions, gods, magic, and and [sic] energy that resembles The Force.
Say, have you gotten those articles published yet? I'd be interested to read the observations your theories predict and what review process they underwent since their initial proposition. Also, what do you mean by "exist" here? Seeing as these things cannot be evading our detection whilst having any significance for our lives, what kind of influence do your theories predict them to have and how do you reckon we would go about conducting the test? Also, what "calculated way it did" do you mean? Surely it cannot be any kind of deterministic way without suggesting some kind of superdeterminism, a predestination that would have the universe look non-deterministic without being so. I'm not sure what kind of test could be performed to confirm or deny such a model either...I am not finnished [sic] with the while [sic] set [of theories] but in conclusion, I will say that "Gods, magic, demons, angels, the soul, and 'physical consciousness' all exist, but the energy I will refer to as The Force is what it all comes from and is where the universe and everything began. (I.e. The Force caused the Big Bang to occure [sic] and everytbing [sic] happen the calculated way it did [sic])
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing your "while set". If you are as scientifically minded as you say in the beginning of your post, then for someone like me it is sure to make for an interesting read indeed.
Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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I had full intention of saying that but I got cought up rambling.
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In the mean time, of course, if we were to find that indeed the universe could have been some other way and that with or without reason it just so happened to proceed in that sweet spot that allowed for its development into what it is today, just what would we infer from that anyway? Would we not still be stuck with at best a remarkable convergence of affairs we wouldn't quite know how to explain? I don't see how that ignorance would warrant us to pretend to not have any, and that instead we really did know why it went the way it did.
Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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I'm at work so cant say or do much right now.
I will find what I read and watched later and talk about this then.
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I think this is a topic better discussed in person.
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