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That Crazy FOSS Thread
I used to be mostly a Windows user, but would dabble with Linux from time to time, just enough to know that it seemed too unstable for me, and I would go back to Windows. Eventually in 2009 I got a Mac and loved OS X. However I eventually grew tired of it's inflexibility and Apple's general philosophy of locking a lot of things down, plus there were many games I simply couldn't play at the time - I built my own PC from the ground up and put windows on it, and have been generally very pleased with it up until the last few days.
It's becoming more and more obvious that Microsoft is trying to become more like Apple, and Apple is falling into some of MS's old confused habits. But I guess the the real thing I want to talk about is Free and Open Source Software and why I'm making the switch to GNU/Linux. Specifically right now I'm typing this on Ubuntu Gnome (I like the way Ubuntu for the most part just works really well with the majority of my hardware with little tweaking, but I dislike the Unity desktop environment in a huge way, and GNOME 3 just works well for my work flow).
For me, a huge part of of being a Jedi is the idea of community values, helping others (or even helping others to help themselves), and the spirit of cooperation over competition. I find this spirit is wonderfully embodied within the Free and Open Source Software movement, and do encourage others to give it some thought. It's not the kind of thing that one can easily do overnight however, I'm dual booting between this and Windows until I feel that I have learned enough to be confident to make the switch.
To be honest, my first choice was Trisquel, what is referred to as a distribution of "Libre" Linux, completely free of any proprietary software, codecs, or drivers. Unfortunately, it's not a very practical option for newcomers, and I had to make some sacrifices for the moment just to ensure a Linux distro that works well with my current hardware, which unfortunately means an NVIDIA graphics card which outputs sound to my monitor via HDMI, also MP3 support was kind of a must since don't know of any podcasts that use anything else as it's become a de-facto standard. Also I have Skype installed, which I'm not too pleased about - it being a Microsoft product and all.
But basically I'm trying to find that happy balance where I can support community values, and transparency wherever possible, helping to make a more connected and open global society. There will be a lot of learning involved - any others out there with experience and tips in working with GNU/Linux/FreeBSD/Etc. please feel free to chime in. I'd like for this thread to become a place where we can help each other in the spirit of cooperation and contribution, and who knows, maybe one day we might end up with our own group.
Let me know, I'm new at this, and any thoughts, perspectives, tips, and stories would be awesome to see/hear.
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6h057 wrote: I'm an Apple guy myself. I was a Genius for a few years. Apple is malleable if you are comfortable with terminal and don't use the sudo command too much and for the wrong things. If you're going Linux, I'd recommend getting used to terminal. You'll most likely spend a lot of time there. Apple's are basically a unix system with some different stuff cobbled in. I do agree that some of the simplicity of yesteryear is leaving the OS. But some new things are being built in that make up for it in a lot of ways. I've given a lot of thought to building a linux box recently too. Particularly a SlackWare box. Just as a media server though.
Yeah, I've got some basic command line knowledge but I definitely need to compile a good bash cheat sheet. I have a tendency to misplace words, and bash commands aren't immune from this. :dry:
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CryojenX wrote: It's becoming more and more obvious that Microsoft is trying to become more like Apple, and Apple is falling into some of MS's old confused habits.
As I'm sure you're aware, there's always been some back and forth with both companies (in addition to others in the past, like Commodore/Amiga/Atari).

That said, Windows 10 is worth a look when it becomes available to the public at the end of this month. I think most people will be pleased with the changes that have been made, especially after some of the inevitable initial wrinkles are worked out. And it's a free upgrade for current Windows 7/8 users for the time being, so you can't go wrong with the price.
I've used Unix and Linux machines in the past. Back in the early days of the internet, Unix terminals were one of the best options for reliably connecting and getting things done over the network. And up until a few years ago, I ran a Linux box (Ubuntu/KDE), which I really liked.
Unfortunately, at that time Linux wasn't powerful or flexible enough to meet my multimedia needs. I required an OS with solid video/audio hardware and software support, and none of the various Linux distributions I tried (and believe me, I tried) were capable of achieving that level of support.
So I started using Windows 7, and have been exceptionally happy with the OS since. It does (still does) everything I need and more. I never touched Windows 8, which I've been told is a good thing. I'm the kind of person that likes to get under the hood (in regard to both software and hardware), and it seems like Windows 8 was a little overprotective where customization was concerned. I've been assured this isn't the case with Windows 10, and am looking forward to digging into the OS in 2 weeks.
I understand and fully respect your desire to remove yourself completely from the shadow of corporate America.

Open source is a beautiful thing. 99% of the programs on my computer are open source. But there are downsides to working with it. It typically requires patience and often a lot of trial and error (i.e., bumping into walls repeatedly), as you no doubt encountered with Trisquel. Open source also means you don't usually have a unified and localized group of people working constantly to fix problems and increase compatibility, which is the advantage (at least in many cases) of commercial software.
Ultimately, I found that I didn't have the time and energy to deal with Linux. If you do, that's wonderful, and I wish you all the best. I'm confident that if you put in enough work, you'll be able to find a Linux setup that satisfies your needs, and there are certainly people in this community who will be able to help you with that and direct you toward better solutions.
I'm sorry to say that I'm not one of those people, as Linux technology changes so quickly, but I wanted to share some thoughts based on past experience. Hopefully, my words haven't sounded too dire or discouraging. I do have a strong sense that Linux will meet the needs of the average user in the not-too-distant future, and I sincerely hope you get a setup working for you soon that you're happy with.

First let me just start out by saying that this post is my personal opinion, and is not intended to be any sort of judgement of others based on the software they use.
Yeah, I generally stay out of any conversation that pits one computer or OS over another. It's all very personal and comes down to what makes sense to each individual, logically and intuitively.
Again, I really do like Linux. If you happen to find a good Linux solution that meets all of your needs, please let us know. I might at least go for a dual-boot configuration next time I update my hardware.
Good luck!
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I also agree with the free approach to the 'net (outside of deliberate commercial effort). I've given stuff away that I could have charged for (don't tell Ms Adder).
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To promote activity and growth in others, but with the partial self interest that it might also help me learn more from people who might join in. Nothing usually comes from nothing, which reminds me of the fake it till you make it concept.... in fact creating something is much more rewarding then just joining and following something IMO;
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Replace body language with programming language :silly:
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I would like to be on an open source OS at home, but I've never really tried to do it. Never had powerful enough hardware (I felt like) to do the dual-boot route.
I'll probably just do the free upgrade from 8 to 10 and leave it at that for a while. I work on Windows Server OS' at work, too, and I def notice a difference on how many times Win systems have issues as compared to UNIX/Linux.
I don’t do anything fancy on my home laptop, I should just put Ubuntu on it and be done...
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I just got the new AMD APU from newegg and it keeps blowing my mind.It's called AMD A10-7850K Kaveri 12 Compute Cores (4 CPU + 8 GPU) 3.7GHz Socket FM2+ 95W AD785KXBJABOX Desktop Processor AMD Radeon R7 series.LTK wrote: I would like to be on an open source OS at home, but I've never really tried to do it. Never had powerful enough hardware (I felt like) to do the dual-boot route.
Anyhoo, I run insane games on it. Even windows games. If the games/apps won't run under wine I can do it in a virtual machine. A complete system set me back $380(no monitor) so the price is right. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2389600
Oh and spend the extra $15 to get the good ram, it makes a big difference. Also if you can afford an SSD then more power to you
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LTK wrote: I would like to be on an open source OS at home, but I've never really tried to do it. Never had powerful enough hardware (I felt like) to do the dual-boot route.
Dual booting doesn't really require anything special in the hardware department, rather the main hiccup can be whether or not the distro you're looking at works out of the box (so to speak) with your already established hardware - often times some distros have difficulties with Nvidia graphics cards (though there are solutions) and KDE in particular has issues with a lot of sound hardware, but it's really more a KDE specific issue. Linux Mint is particularly popular and fairly easy to use, and since it's based on both Ubuntu and GNOME underpinning, has much better compatibility with these kinds of hardware, but also has a a choice of desktop environments that are very Windows-like in their appearance and functionality.
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