Is There A Difference Between Destiny & Fate?

Hitira38 wrote:

OB1Shinobi wrote: i use the words in the opposite order but that is a most eloquent way of expressing the idea.

OB1 is correct, the proper way of use is fate usually being over come to influence and destiny is the inevitable event.

Most of what is being spoken of here is personal views of the word and not the "proper" way. Nothing wrong with personal views but the only proper use of a word is found in the dictionary:

Fate
fate
/fāt/
noun
noun: fate; plural noun: Fates; plural noun: the Fates

1.
the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power.
"fate decided his course for him"

synonyms: destiny, providence, the stars, chance, luck, serendipity, fortune, kismet, karma
"what has fate in store for me?"

•the course of someone's life, or the outcome of a particular situation for someone or something, seen as beyond their control.
plural noun: fates

"he suffered the same fate as his companion"

synonyms: future, destiny, outcome, end, lot
"my fate was in their hands"

•the inescapable death of a person.
"the guards led her to her fate"

synonyms: death, demise, end; retribution, sentence
"a similar fate would befall other killers"

2.
Greek & Roman Mythology
the three goddesses who preside over the birth and life of humans. Each person's destiny was thought of as a thread spun, measured, and cut by the three Fates, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos.

Synonyms: the weird sisters; the Parcae, the Moirai, the Norns; ‘Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos’
"the Fates will decide"

•another term for Norns.

verb
past participle: fated; verb: fate; 3rd person present: fates; gerund or present participle: fating
1.
be destined to happen, turn out, or act in a particular way.
"the regime was fated to end badly"

synonyms: be predestined, be preordained, be destined, be meant, be doomed; be sure, be certain, be bound, be guaranteed
"his daughter was fated to face the same problem"

Origin
late Middle English: from Italian fato or Old French fat or (later) from their source, Latin fatum ‘that which has been spoken,’ from fari ‘speak.’

Destiny
des·ti·ny
/ˈdestinē/
noun
noun: destiny; plural noun: destinies

the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future.
"she was unable to control her own destiny"

•the hidden power believed to control what will happen in the future; fate.
"he believes in destiny"

synonyms: future, fate, fortune, doom; lot; archaicportion
"master of his own destiny"

•fate, providence;
predestination;

God's will, kismet, the stars;

luck, fortune, chance;

karma, serendipity

"she believed their meeting was destiny"

Origin
Middle English: from Old French destinee, from Latin destinata, feminine past participle of destinare ‘make firm, establish.’

ah, but kami how is the meaning of a word decided?....

by a group of people whose personal view of the word is agreed upon...dictionaries are written by man, and man is fallible...man has personal views, man constantly seeks to make their own view everyone else's....

just my view.... :lol:

RyuJin wrote: ah, but kami how is the meaning of a word decided?....

by a group of people whose personal view of the word is agreed upon...dictionaries are written by man, and man is fallible...man has personal views, man constantly seeks to make their own view everyone else's....

just my view.... :lol:

Again, nothing wrong with personal views but my post was an attempt at a nice way of saying "Don't tell people that their personal opinion is wrong and your personal opinion is right/proper".

I have nothing against people using stating their personal definitions. But until a personal definition makes it into the dictionary (like the figurative use of literal *cry* ) it cannot be considered proper.

i think it would be a fun little social experiment to agree to come to a consensus as to which function each word should represent and use them in that fashion from now on and see how long it takes for the distinction to get back to us

the "catch" is that results will be much more expedient if we do reach a consensus and we agree to stick with it socially beyond simply the totj context

we might be suprized one day to find dictionaries no longer regarding them strictly as synonyms

with the influence that the internet has on thought and language that day may be sooner than we think

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if people agree to this i would cast my vote for being that destiny is the final destination and that fate is/are the events and experiences which made that destiny inevitable

i also agree to respect the vote of the majority whichever way it goes