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13 Dec 2013 07:14 #128540
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Which one is darker? The top or the bottom?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/12/07/optical_illusion_shades_of_grey.html
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Which one is darker? The top or the bottom?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/12/07/optical_illusion_shades_of_grey.html
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13 Dec 2013 07:43 #128542
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My eyes insist top...
Byt both rainbow color inspector and the link disagree...
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Byt both rainbow color inspector and the link disagree...
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13 Dec 2013 08:26 #128544
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My husband showed me this one yesterday. The top definitely looked darker, but... well I'm not gonna say and ruin it for others. Hehe...
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13 Dec 2013 09:00 #128546
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The excellent point speaks for itself - it's all a matter of context, a question of perspective.
At the same time, who's to say our perception (due to the context) is less valuable than the result of an objective check? It reminds me of that point Alan Watts makes - we should not isolate objects from their environments and try to examine them from a position of objectivity, because this is unrealistic, or as the early existentialists would say, 'inauthentic'. We find everything (colours, sounds, thoughts) in a context, so the context can't be inherently irrelevant.
If I look closely enough at the "greys" above I find tiny reds, greens and blues...
Our perception is one thing. The objective reality (or something closer to it) is another thing. We're wise to recognise that because our perception is immanent to us, and we have a tendency to prioritise it... but unwise to discard it altogether.
At the same time, who's to say our perception (due to the context) is less valuable than the result of an objective check? It reminds me of that point Alan Watts makes - we should not isolate objects from their environments and try to examine them from a position of objectivity, because this is unrealistic, or as the early existentialists would say, 'inauthentic'. We find everything (colours, sounds, thoughts) in a context, so the context can't be inherently irrelevant.
If I look closely enough at the "greys" above I find tiny reds, greens and blues...
Our perception is one thing. The objective reality (or something closer to it) is another thing. We're wise to recognise that because our perception is immanent to us, and we have a tendency to prioritise it... but unwise to discard it altogether.
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13 Dec 2013 09:06 #128547
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Perspective and lighting are the right things to focus on, here. If it were a 2D object, they'd both be the same shade. But, since it's supposedly a 3D object, the top is darker.
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13 Dec 2013 11:41 - 13 Dec 2013 11:45 #128557
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The top or bottom of what?
I'm going out on the limb here but this looks like the...... the Ying Yang thing baby!
I'm going out on the limb here but this looks like the...... the Ying Yang thing baby!
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13 Dec 2013 14:17 #128575
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That's amazing!
The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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13 Dec 2013 14:25 #128579
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A good lesson in not judging or taking things at face value; or by our first impression.
Warning: Spoiler!
I like how it shows that if one removes the division, the thing perceived to be separating them, then we can easily see they are really the same.
Don't believe me, lay your finger across the screen on top the divide between the two pieces.
Don't believe me, lay your finger across the screen on top the divide between the two pieces.
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13 Dec 2013 15:47 #128584
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Exactly. Which top or bottom?
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Wescli Wardest wrote: A good lesson in not judging or taking things at face value
; or by our first impression
Exactly. Which top or bottom?
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13 Dec 2013 16:28 #128587
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We use these tricks in graphic design, 3D animation, and CGI all the time. You are absolutely right in observing that the lighting is what creates this effect. It is the shadow created by the apparent "curved surfaces" where the two blocks meet that causes your mind to perceive the top as darker.
The reality is something else all together...
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Luthien wrote: Perspective and lighting are the right things to focus on, here. If it were a 2D object, they'd both be the same shade. But, since it's supposedly a 3D object, the top is darker.
We use these tricks in graphic design, 3D animation, and CGI all the time. You are absolutely right in observing that the lighting is what creates this effect. It is the shadow created by the apparent "curved surfaces" where the two blocks meet that causes your mind to perceive the top as darker.
The reality is something else all together...
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