The Left and Right Hands of Politics...

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20 Feb 2013 01:39 #95063 by
Have you ever noticed...

that when two people hold hands...


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the person on the left holds out her right hand,

and the person on the right holds out his left hand?



Can we apply this to our politically critical world...

and realize that we have a little of the other side...

with our own side?
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20 Feb 2013 02:07 #95066 by Whyte Horse
TWO PARTY SYSTEM

In the United States, the political system is a very marginal affair. There are two parties, so-called, but they're really factions of the same party, the Business Party. Both represent some range of business interests. In fact, they can change their positions 180 degrees, and nobody even notices

. In the 1984 election, for example, there was actually an issue, which often there isn't. The issue was Keynesian growth versus fiscal conservatism. The Republicans were the party of Keynesian growth: big spending, deficits, and so on. The Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism: watch the money supply, worry about the deficits, et cetera.

Now, I didn't see a single comment pointing out that the two parties had completely reversed their traditional positions. Traditionally, the Democrats are the party of Keynesian growth, and the Republicans the party of fiscal conservatism.

So doesn't it strike you that something must have happened? Well, actually, it makes sense. Both parties are essentially the same party. The only question is how coalitions of investors have shifted around on tactical issues now and then. As they do, the parties shift to opposite positions, within a narrow spectrum.

Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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20 Feb 2013 19:36 #95155 by
That's a cute picture. :)

Good points from both posts.

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20 Feb 2013 20:02 #95156 by ren

Whyte Horse wrote: TWO PARTY SYSTEM

In the United States, the political system is a very marginal affair. There are two parties, so-called, but they're really factions of the same party, the Business Party. Both represent some range of business interests. In fact, they can change their positions 180 degrees, and nobody even notices

. In the 1984 election, for example, there was actually an issue, which often there isn't. The issue was Keynesian growth versus fiscal conservatism. The Republicans were the party of Keynesian growth: big spending, deficits, and so on. The Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism: watch the money supply, worry about the deficits, et cetera.

Now, I didn't see a single comment pointing out that the two parties had completely reversed their traditional positions. Traditionally, the Democrats are the party of Keynesian growth, and the Republicans the party of fiscal conservatism.

So doesn't it strike you that something must have happened? Well, actually, it makes sense. Both parties are essentially the same party. The only question is how coalitions of investors have shifted around on tactical issues now and then. As they do, the parties shift to opposite positions, within a narrow spectrum.


Traditionally the democrats are confederates and the republican support the rights of coloured people. Now the white southerner tends to vote republican.

Also, Abraham lincoln hadn't declared war to zombies but to separatists. All sorts of crazy shit was the other way around in the past :D

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.

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20 Feb 2013 20:03 #95157 by
I think the visual is a great aid in realizing the act of compromise. I do however, agree with Whyte Horse that both parties represent a larger business party. We only need to look at where they agree to identify who they truly serve.

I'm actually in the process of writing a draft for my dissertation for later publishing on these aspects of the political environment. We can easily identify numerous policies which both parties agree on. These policies are fundamental elements, key to maintaining the economic status quo, for the benefit of the corporatocracy.

Some examples include:

NAFTA, NDAA, Bank Bailouts and no prosecution for crimes, Foreign Policy (Iran, Israel, North Africa), Energy and Oil Proliferation, The Drug War.

Although you may hear rhetoric purporting that either party may have differing stances; when it comes down to actual policy implementations and votes cast; both parties have been strikingly uniform on these and other issues that support the economic hegemony. At least to the point where they are realized via legislation.

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