American experiment
20 Oct 2011 20:14 #43760
by ren
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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British media has called the euro an "experiment" ever since britain failed to meet the requirements to join in the 90's, and keep calling it so despite the 350 million using it directly every day. (And the 170 million using a currency pegged to it).
Now, the United States of America are an experiment too. Despite the declaration of independence in 1776, treaty of Paris in 1783 (official recognition), and the constitution of 1788 that is still in use today, it would seem some british idiots would like to waste time arguing the legality of the declaration of independence and how it's an "experiment"... when they should be worrying about important things, like a sustained inflation at 5% for instance.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511
Unbelievable.
Now, the United States of America are an experiment too. Despite the declaration of independence in 1776, treaty of Paris in 1783 (official recognition), and the constitution of 1788 that is still in use today, it would seem some british idiots would like to waste time arguing the legality of the declaration of independence and how it's an "experiment"... when they should be worrying about important things, like a sustained inflation at 5% for instance.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511
Unbelievable.
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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20 Oct 2011 21:26 #43765
by Jestor
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Overall, I'd say we are a successful experiment...
We just need to grown up and learn how to be responsible for ourselves, quit worrying about what all the other are doing, and start saving our allowance....
We could joined a gang I guess....:woohoo:
We just need to grown up and learn how to be responsible for ourselves, quit worrying about what all the other are doing, and start saving our allowance....
We could joined a gang I guess....:woohoo:
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20 Oct 2011 23:20 #43770
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'Y'know, wasn't England itself originally a part of the Roman Empire?' Ouduar asked, 'And then the Normans invaded, there was civil warring with the Scots, the French tried to take over... they've got a pretty messy history of their own, and a lot bloodier. How can they say that they, themselves, aren't an experiment in their own right?'
Jack shrugged.
"Everything's an experiment if you look at it the right way. I'd say even the idea of government is an experiment. Or, for that matter, civilization as a whole. Maybe anarchy and the naturalistic survival model is the only real way to go about it, but we're so comfortable living in houses with electricity and in groups where we have organized structure that we don't stop to think about it."
Ouduar lit up a cigarette.
'What's your opinion, Miss Author?'
"...There IS a way for these experiments to succeed... but there aren't any current or historical models that ARE doing it correctly. We just need to work towards it."
Jack shrugged.
"Everything's an experiment if you look at it the right way. I'd say even the idea of government is an experiment. Or, for that matter, civilization as a whole. Maybe anarchy and the naturalistic survival model is the only real way to go about it, but we're so comfortable living in houses with electricity and in groups where we have organized structure that we don't stop to think about it."
Ouduar lit up a cigarette.
'What's your opinion, Miss Author?'
"...There IS a way for these experiments to succeed... but there aren't any current or historical models that ARE doing it correctly. We just need to work towards it."
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20 Oct 2011 23:25 #43771
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This seems like a fairly pointless debate really.
I'd like to see the legality of a rebellion to free yourself from oppression.
Libya just had a revolution. If they create a declaration of independence of something similar does that mean that declaration is invalid?
I'd like to see the legality of a rebellion to free yourself from oppression.
Libya just had a revolution. If they create a declaration of independence of something similar does that mean that declaration is invalid?
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20 Oct 2011 23:59 - 21 Oct 2011 00:00 #43772
by Jestor
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It is a pointless debate....
I think that's ren's point....
The politicians are backpedaling....
"Oh, well we never really believed that (The Colonies/the Euro) were going to work, but we had to give it a try....."
As Sapadu said, we try something it works, then great!
If not, well, crap, back to square one....
I think that's ren's point....
The politicians are backpedaling....
"Oh, well we never really believed that (The Colonies/the Euro) were going to work, but we had to give it a try....."
As Sapadu said, we try something it works, then great!
If not, well, crap, back to square one....
On walk-about...
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Jedi ain't Saints....
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Last edit: 21 Oct 2011 00:00 by Jestor.
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28 Nov 2011 03:32 #45097
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lol if people are arguing over the legality of the constitution it goes something like this: What makes a law? A government of the country the law is appointed to. The constitution is in America made by Americans and was in acted as the founding "charter" of our country where all laws were going to be made from. So therefore if the first president said it was a legal document of America and it has not been disputed by any president afterwards, wouldn't that make it legal? By george I think in a sentence I shot down a pointless argument some politician wants to throw out there! Jesus I must be a genius! Or Politicians are just getting dumber? We may never know.:whistle:
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