Real-Life Minas Tirith Anyone?

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12 Aug 2015 15:21 #199749 by
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/realise-minas-tirith#/story

49 Days and just under £1.85/$2.9 Billion to go...

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12 Aug 2015 16:07 #199751 by TheDude
It would be a nice novelty for there to be a real-life Minas Tirith. But it seems a massive waste of money, the ~1.5b being a very rough estimate in terms of building an extremely large city, and with only a 7 year estimate to build the incredible city... I just don't see it happening.
I mean, I'd visit Minas Tirith. If it had a good school system, I might even live there! It would be amazing to live in Minas Tirith, after all -- but I just think there are better things to spend money on, and I don't have strong faith in the capabilities of the planning party.

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12 Aug 2015 17:14 #199759 by Edan
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It sounds interesting but it seems incredibly ambitious... I think they're gonna need some other source of investment..

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12 Aug 2015 17:27 #199762 by
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If it happens I would visit it no matter what, but I'm not holding my breath.

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12 Aug 2015 17:27 #199763 by Tellahane
could you imagine if that 1.5 billion was spent doing...i don't know feeding and housing the homeless, and a program for providing education to get them into jobs to make money and survive on their own...
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12 Aug 2015 17:49 #199766 by
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I know this is in the misc. section. And, I should get preachy... So, I won't...

Jedi serve in many ways. Each action performed, no matter the scale, influences the world. With this in mind Jedi perform each action with peace, caring, love, compassion and humility. So it is that each Jedi improves the world with each deed they perform.


Service is a big part of my Jedi path. So much so that I'm considering changes careers to better suit being a servant to the world.

This kind of project pulls at my geek-Romantic side. I can feel the tug in my heart: YES, let's build a Minas Tirith or a life-sized Death Star... But, then... I don't know. I get really upset when I think of all this money being raised to fulfill a nerd's wet dream. Because, that means our priorities as a society (or, a subculture) are very messed up. I have to remember that this is probably the idea of only a few people, and that most only donate because it is an impulsive decision. But, just like those people who want to build random cities on the water to get out of society... I just wish we would put those things aside and really work for the things that will change lives for the better.

Now, there is another side to this coin. I can't say I'm a Jedi without considering another possibility. What if this Minas Tirith is made? And, then, people who don't have jobs move into the city? What if it could become a haven for the destitute? Sure, it'd probably look like the Third Age of Man... haha. But, that could change over time.

I don't know... I just feel strongly about this. But, I won't say anything more about it.

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12 Aug 2015 21:36 - 12 Aug 2015 21:37 #199801 by Edan
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If this ever did happen (and I'm not entirely convinced they're going to succeed) then there are benefits to individuals.. the number of jobs that would be required to create such a city is going to be immense. On the other hand though, I can imagine it becoming somewhere only those with money could live...

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13 Aug 2015 03:20 #199832 by Brenna

Tellahane wrote: could you imagine if that 1.5 billion was spent doing...i don't know feeding and housing the homeless, and a program for providing education to get them into jobs to make money and survive on their own...


You know, that was my first reaction too.

but.

1.5 billion is actually not that much in terms of social welfare spending, and when its gone, its gone.

How many jobs would this project create during construction, on going maintenance and running once its opened as a tourist attraction?


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13 Aug 2015 08:43 #199845 by
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Yeah I get all those arguments, but it's still a real life Minas Tirith :ohmy:

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13 Aug 2015 14:30 #199874 by Tellahane

Brenna wrote:

Tellahane wrote: could you imagine if that 1.5 billion was spent doing...i don't know feeding and housing the homeless, and a program for providing education to get them into jobs to make money and survive on their own...


You know, that was my first reaction too.

but.

1.5 billion is actually not that much in terms of social welfare spending, and when its gone, its gone.

How many jobs would this project create during construction, on going maintenance and running once its opened as a tourist attraction?


*and then I see Edan has beat me to the argument.


The only thing I will argue is that for a project like this, your not really creating that many jobs, and the type of employees your going to have in order to work there, even for the construction is going to be the high end better skilled ones that already have jobs, that are essentially getting pay raises working on this project.

Looking at the different donation values, $650k for a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom residence on the location, I have that size house for $105k here in my small town, this is by design of prices, expected to be a high priced tourist attraction, and its not a not-for-profit(unless I missed it), and while yeah the mcdonalds and other stores that go in there will create jobs going forward, the salary/pay of working at restaurants at theme parks and major tourist attractions is so much higher then out in the boonies its still could be money better spent elsewhere.

I also suppose just like disney land the ability to fill the imaginations and bring stories to life to even get a taste of what it was like to live in a place similar to the movies and have that experience(should see how many people visit some of the places lotr was shot at) is a novel concept and goal. It is a different way of providing help/support in some cases, I just still feel its going to be another tourist trap, and majority of the money made for it is still gonna help someone build a nice mansion somewhere.

I would be far more impressed if this whole thing was done under a not-for-profit style organization.
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