Media Madness . . .aka m & m's

The purpose of this thread has to do with at least 5 presently running Jedi threads (in and out of the Jedixxx category).

There is one comment that I present (now anyway).
There is a problem with the word Jedism.
It is inherent is the i.s.m.
So what the pastor already said that?


Media coverage does not equal get our name out there, favorability, or respect and hoorah for jedi.
Not every "no" not a good idea is based on paranoia or cameras.

There is a lot to understand about brand. Not just in media but also to further development and progression of JW.

The existing coverage is out there. Yes, at this point, it may have served the inside of the movement more so than the desired recognition or respectability from the outside.

Okay one more . . .
Old school versus the JW was a little disturbing. The second set of comparison (i think) was set in a we versus they . . (no that is not true as set) and does that thought even serve to the end of symbiosis? Kind of like tie hands behind back and try to tie shoes.

#3) there are present day religions that are successfully symbiotic. Do they have as broad a scope as the JW? Perhaps not, yet is there anything about their success that could serve our growth?

Mareeka wrote: The purpose of this thread has to do with at least 5 presently running Jedi threads (in and out of the Jedixxx category).

There is one comment that I present (now anyway).
There is a problem with the word Jedism.
It is inherent is the i.s.m.
So what the pastor already said that?

What is the problem you see?

Media coverage does not equal get our name out there, favorability, or respect and hoorah for jedi.
Not every "no" not a good idea is based on paranoia or cameras.

No it does not. We cannot control what others say or show about us. I'm not sure what your second sentence means.

There is a lot to understand about brand. Not just in media but also to further development and progression of JW.

I personally think branding is irrelevant when it comes to Jedi. We are not a product.

The existing coverage is out there. Yes, at this point, it may have served the inside of the movement more so than the desired recognition or respectability from the outside.

Do we desire recognition or respectability? I personally don't.

Okay one more . . .
Old school versus the JW was a little disturbing. The second set of comparison (i think) was set in a we versus they . . (no that is not true as set) and does that thought even serve to the end of symbiosis? Kind of like tie hands behind back and try to tie shoes.

Could you quote the bit you're talking about please?

1) not a problem . . a support
2 & 3 . . . understanding branding is a key to what AO notes about the word jedism
4) points to what are the results of existing coverage?
5) when I get back . . .okay

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/-ism


-ism

: the act, practice, or process of doing something

: behavior like that of a specified kind of person or thing

: unfair treatment of a group of people who have a particular quality

Jediism therefore means:

-Practicing the jedi way, or doing jedi-like things
-being jedi, or jedi-like
-treating people differently because they are jedi.



I don't mean to be rude, but it was bang-on 10 years ago, and still is bang-on today.

Yes, dictionary.
Yes to all the discussion of a word with and ism on the end.
Dump the word? . . no.

What are m&ms about ? . . The support of continued emergence.

What else? What the media does with brands.

What else? The relativity of continued growth and what not only the media does with brands, but also how the public and individuals naturally brand.

What else? Oh the other word religion.
What else? Relative to the modern present day emergences (mostly under 10 years in mind) but not excluding the older ones.
What else? is it a m&m or not? . . .
What else? religion = m&ms, in this instance.

Are resumes required here?
oh . . that is humor not sarcasm . . as there is no need for it . . there is no threat

Edan wrote: I personally think branding is irrelevant when it comes to Jedi. We are not a product.

^^^ THIS

Agreed.
Not a question of to be or not to be . . . or we should . . .brand
A reference to a modality
for Divine Inspiration? . . . lol.
Not.


relative to: "kick in arse"
potential
agreed
yes, it may not matter

I did a re-write of the OP (except for the last point).

Re-write of OP

The purpose of this thread has to do with at least 5 presently running Jedi threads (in and out of the Jedixxx category).

The purpose of this thread is to invite a conversation parralel to (about 5 others threads) on the topic of Jedism. Some of the five threads are in the Jedism category which is response restricted to Guests; although at times, those conversations are moved to Open Discussions.

The sum of these threads stirred the same sensation of enthusiasm as when I first walked through the Temple doors several years ago with an added dimension. . . .

Now that I know what the Totjo is as a new religion, and that I can see the evolutionary potential of this religion due to its altruistic and spiritual means of helping others to help themselves I am doubly enthused. Yet, it rises to one more level. . . .

I am triply enthused as I observe the joining of Jedi within these walls and from these walls to other Jedi forums, and with other Jedi friends on projects brought out into the world, in their lives, non-profit work, income earning jobs, etc. It is not role playing. It is the real deal: each works on his/herself body, mind and spirit (the whole being) based on their own spiritual path and needs, which supports him/her in living more clearly, compassionately, intuitive and creatively. Dat is wat it looks and feels wike to me!! (think ducks voice).

There is one comment that I present (now anyway).

I noted in a later post, I was going out the door. Now, meaning versus a few hours later.

There is a problem with the word Jedism.
It is inherent is the i.s.m.
So what the pastor already said that?

I am in agreement with Alex about the philosophy of not making Jedism a mantle. A couple of years ago there was much discussion led by Alex, in the open discussions, about not making "I am Jedi" a mantle.

This year he is utilizing the same philosophy. A philosophy which, I too embrace and apply to myself. The philosophy itself is far broader than "I am this or that" or "yah I am into Jedism." It is the obstacles, deep grooves, and limited constructs that may potentially develop in the course of hanging on too tightly to any mantle. "I am not my job" "I belong to this club"

Media coverage does not equal get our name out there, favorability, or respect and hoorah for Jedi.

Two types of media coverage were referenced by Alex within the group of threads.

(1) were a non-totjo movie on jedism released, it may come back and kick us in the arse. I didn't see his justification for saying this, meaning in what way. Although, I could see how unfavorable media coverage could stop or impede growth.
Like er . . . I personally don't want that to happen.

(2) alex choosing not to engage a reporter for a future meet-up

Not every "no" not a good idea is based on paranoia or cameras.

Althea, who has done a lot work with unifying Jedi sites, (exceptionally so . . great work) asked alex if this was the reason why alex diverted the reporter.

So, my comment "Not every "no" . . . . . "

There is a lot to understand about brand. Not just in media but also to further development and progression of JW.

Since, brand does not just apply to manufacturing and products, are we Totjo Jedi going to be potentially branded by the feedback of the movie if spokespersons for Jedism at large and meetups look more like the role playing? That is my concern.

I haven't seen anything on the goals for Totjo growth in awhile. Two years ago, I was seeing slow and thorough. Which I support.

The existing coverage is out there.

Yes, at this point, it may have served the inside of the movement more so than the desired recognition or respectability from the outside.

The existing coverage has brought some attention to the movement as a legitimate religion, which it is. That is great!

Is the public feedback following the media recognition consistent with where the Totjo is going?

I know these things are under regular review at this site and in relationship with others at other Jedi sites as I have followed the discussions.

So, if growth is desirable, then I have ideas that may serve and support.

Mareeka wrote:
Two types of media coverage were referenced by Alex within the group of threads.

(1) were a non-totjo movie on jedism released, it may come back and kick us in the arse. I didn't see his justification for saying this, meaning in what way. Although, I could see how unfavorable media coverage could stop or impede growth.
Like er . . . I personally don't want that to happen.

(2) alex choosing not to engage a reporter for a future meet-up

Not every "no" not a good idea is based on paranoia or cameras.

Althea, who has done a lot work with unifying Jedi sites, (exceptionally so . . great work) asked alex if this was the reason why alex diverted the reporter.

So, my comment "Not every "no" . . . . . "

Regarding point 2, I'm not quite sure how to read the bit "not every "no" not a good idea", but Alex was not the only person saying no. In fact he originally left it up to me to make the decision, although I chose not to without consulting the others involved, and although I initially said no, Alex encouraged me to consider further (which I did).

You cannot see the whole of the conversations that were had in deciding why to say no, so I think it prudent perhaps not to comment on what is essentially a situation without context. The decision was not, however, made because of paranoia but in fact out of respect for the friendships we have made and would like to develop.