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26 Sep 2014 19:51 #161903 by Wescli Wardest
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Is this ISIS or are we associating this horrific act with a known terror group to spread fear and gain support for possible future actions?


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And if it is the media selling fear, wouldn't that make the media a terror group? :unsure:

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26 Sep 2014 20:29 #161909 by steamboat28
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You gotta love people who "fight terrorism" by commiting literally terrorist acts by scaring the pants of little old ladies reading their newspapers with sensationalized accounts and conclusion-jumping.

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26 Sep 2014 20:29 #161910 by
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Wescli Wardest wrote: Is this ISIS or are we associating this horrific act with a known terror group to spread fear and gain support for possible future actions?


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And if it is the media selling fear, wouldn't that make the media a terror group? :unsure:


this may or may not be ISIS, however they did call for all Muslims to start attacking people in their countries of residence. This man was a disgruntled employee because he had been fired the previous day. He was of the Islamic faith. Whether or not this was inspired by ISIS's statement slast week or not yet has been revealed. This may just be a lone wolf acting upon violence. However reports have been confirmed he was actively trying not convert people to Islam, and was a supporter of other terrostistic organizations.

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26 Sep 2014 23:56 - 26 Sep 2014 23:59 #161972 by Adder
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Revan Falton wrote: this may or may not be ISIS, however they did call for all Muslims to start attacking people in their countries of residence.


Yep, it happened over here already, last week, an 18yr old guy out of the blue.

"Police said that when they asked Haider to answer some questions about what they called “some concerns” about his recent behaviour – specifically attending a shopping centre with an Islamic State flag and inflammatory social media comments about the AFP and Asio – he had asked to meet them at the Endeavour Hills police station in south-west Melbourne.

Police agreed. There was no intention of arresting him at that stage and the idea was to keep it all low key. He had been a “person of interest” for about three months and his passport had been cancelled last week owing to what police said was an “escalation of his activity” in recent days.

Police alleged that when they went to greet him Haider stabbed the AFP officer in the abdomen, neck and head, and then the Victorian officer on the forearm. Both were members of the joint counter-terrorism taskforce. The Victorian officer shot and killed him with a single shot. It was all over in minutes.

More alarmingly, the Age reported that Haider’s plan was to follow instructions from the international terror group Islamic State and behead the officers, cover the bodies in the flag of Islamic State and take photos to post via the internet.
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...when disillusioned goes delusional. Apparently they found a larger knife and IS flag in the car he used to attend the meeting (his mum's car).

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27 Sep 2014 00:07 #161975 by Edan
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I often wonder if people like that would have done something terrible anyway, just under a different banner or for a different purpose, or whether there really is a 'tipping point' they're pushed to specifically by religion or politics. Hard to know.

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27 Sep 2014 00:30 #161979 by
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I'm not sure what a man's religion has to do with his actions especially if he didn't claim to do it in the name of his god.

If a Christian man killed another man with a rope, would we assume he's a member of the Ku Klux Klan?

If a Zen Buddhist man killed another man with a katana, would we assume he's a part of a Japanese radical nationalist?

People are scared, I get that, but we can't allow our fear to get the best of us. We can't allow prejudice combined with free association become the way we decide whether a religion is responsible for one man's actions.

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27 Sep 2014 00:40 #161984 by
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Lone wolf attacks are almost impossible to prevent. These attacks by individuals are usually on soft targets where security is difficult if not impossible to implement. Most of the caught would-be terrorists have been attempting something dramatic and were apprehended during the planning stages. There have been no major terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11. A recent FBI survey of violent incidents showed statistics that mass shootings (gun violence with multiple victims) have risen dramatically over the past several years. Most of these have not been terrorist attacks.

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27 Sep 2014 00:55 #161988 by Wescli Wardest
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I have another question to add to this discussion.

Seriously, and meditate on it first, don’t just answer with a gut reaction… if you were at work and saw something like this happening, would you risk or sacrifice your life to stop the individual?

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27 Sep 2014 01:22 - 27 Sep 2014 01:24 #161993 by
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Of course. It would be an honor.

'But I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live ' QOTSA, Go with the flow.
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27 Sep 2014 08:17 #162070 by Edan
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To answer Wescli's question, I hope that I would however I cannot say how I'd react. Also, to enter a situation like that, is it always a good idea. Don't know.

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