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01 Mar 2008 12:21 #11925 by
There is a few big differences between us and them though Brother. We are trying to improve the world, they are trying to get money. You can improve your life if you have the money to take the seminars, have the test, lectures, etc. Not to mention they believe psychology to be evil and that being homosexual or even bi can be 'cured'. They view it as simply an imbalance. But i am not going to ramble on about this any further. Look up things for yourself if you life. I can see your point, we are based off of a movie just as they are based off of a few books. I just can't see their beliefs as something positive. But as i have already stated, if people can find happiness in scientology then all the better. I figure, what ever makes you happy right?

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01 Mar 2008 12:43 #11928 by Br. John
DAN wrote:
\"is it right for us to judge another faith, or even its members ...\"

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\"I agree, if you find happiness in Scientology then that is great!\"


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In the generally positive influence that most religions have had on their followers and on society. 3

3 Exceptions are a handful of destructive cults which have had an overall negative effect.

Judge is a loaded word so how about evaluate? As Jedi we have to evaluate things all the time. If a Jedi told me they thought that everything in the Star Wars movies is real and did happen a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away and George Lucas somehow had a vision of it, I'd think s/he might want to check with a doctor. If s/he is happy believing this and it's not hurting herself or anyone else - great.

My evaluation of Tom Cruise is that as a celebrity he has a big audience and can possibly get folks into Scientology. He has the right to do that just as others have the right to tell about their experiences with Scientology.

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and see: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/02/19/interview-with-anti-scientology-website-creator-jeff-jacobsen/

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01 Mar 2008 13:26 #11935 by
This some stuff that the interview speaks of.
Operation snow white was done by Scientologists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

These links are against scientologist.
http://xenutv.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

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02 Mar 2008 06:44 #11957 by
yes but the start of this thread was judging not evaluating, we were saying how crazy they are, not putting facts on the religion and also seeing if it is good or not. his first movie i believe was the one with his ex wife, where they are irish but my mind went blank so i can not tell you the name lol sorry.

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02 Mar 2008 14:34 #11966 by
Master Dan, would you not agree though that if you are to pass any judgement that you should first know exactly what is going on and know both sides.

On the crazy note I think what is being said is how crazy people think they are. And whether or not they believe that craziness to have a good or bad effect on society.

I think people are just making a point, and voicing their opinions.

(Personally I do not think they are all crazy, all beliefs are justified. I just consider their beliefs to be odd to what I believe.)

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02 Mar 2008 15:02 #11968 by Jon
Irrespective of the quality of critical content, it is always wise to keep influential power centers under close scrutiny. And very often biased statements are simply a reflection of a concern or fear. History has shown us all too often how we should not take movements for granted.

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02 Mar 2008 16:38 #11971 by Jon
\"I've never made a film that I didn't believe in, you know? However the picture turns out, I've always given everything to it. That's kind of how I approach life. I can't help it. There's no part-way with me on anything in any area of my life.\"
- Tom Cruise

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