Weapon Forms (Tai Chi)

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19 Dec 2016 19:43 #268965 by JamesSand
Notwithstanding arguments about how to spell or say Tai chi.....
(Which makes searching for the topic a bit tedious :P )

More or less against the advice of my instructor, I'm thinking of starting a weapon form for Tai Chi - Does anyone have any experience with this? Which weapon forms do you enjoy the most? Where/What companies make good tai chi weapons?

I'm looking at straight sword or staff.

Possibly determined by my ability to get a nice/affordable straight sword :P

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19 Dec 2016 20:19 #268970 by
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I would personally choose the Light Saber...;)

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19 Dec 2016 20:31 #268972 by
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But why? Tai Chi, as I understand, is a spiritual practice that had a martial parallel which has since been lost. I don't know how accurate that is with historical information we have on the origin of various martial arts.

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19 Dec 2016 20:37 #268973 by
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There is a reason why there are different Spellings ;)

One is Martial

One is Spiritual/Health

If you wish to start learning...Might I advice learning the history, philosophy of it? :) It will help you to understand the variance of practices.

Myself...I prefer Kendo. :)

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19 Dec 2016 20:39 - 19 Dec 2016 20:45 #268975 by Tarran
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Jamie Stick wrote: But why? Tai Chi, as I understand, is a spiritual practice that had a martial parallel which has since been lost. I don't know how accurate that is with historical information we have on the origin of various martial arts.


Mweeell, I think I know what you mean... but Tai Qi Q'uan (yep, different spellings abound, but same school of thought) actually has an internal form (more ivolved with what we might call the Force) as well as an external form - perhaps that's what you're talking about?

As far as "spiritual" goes, a lot of practitioners were Taoist... but interestingly, religious Taoism sprang forth from academic Taoism ;)

But back on topic, I'd have to say the lion sword (perhaps a pair), and the staff... definitely :)

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19 Dec 2016 22:47 #269014 by JamesSand
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To clarify - I currently practice Tai chi, and have done for a while, and am looking to expand with a weapon form.

As I don't currently study or practice any of the weapon forms, I was wondering if anyone here had some input as to styles they have used or enjoyed.


My Trainer/Mentor in Tai Chi is...recalcitrant about helping me in this direction.

Whether because he thinks I'm not good enough to start, or that he's not good enough to instruct, or some other issue is beyond me at the moment (I know he at least knows some staff forms that I've seen him doing)

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19 Dec 2016 22:56 #269018 by
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Could be he has a very very good reason that should be listened to/considered ;)

Google and Youtube

:)

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20 Dec 2016 04:10 #269037 by TheDude
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When I was studying Tai Chi and Shaolin Kung Fu, I learned to use to guan dao. It's really fun to work with and it's easy to use with Tai Chi Chuan fundamentals.

As for Tai Chi Chuan as non-martial, I'm not sure where people are getting that. I have never seen a standalone Tai Chi Chuan school (and I've been to about a dozen in the area) which doesn't stress martial application and competitive push hands and/or free sparring. The only non-martial (health/spirituality-based) Tai Chi Chuan I've seen taught has been in small groups, mostly among the elderly. Perhaps that's unique to my location, though.

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20 Dec 2016 04:55 #269039 by Leah Starspectre

TheDude wrote: As for Tai Chi Chuan as non-martial, I'm not sure where people are getting that. I have never seen a standalone Tai Chi Chuan school (and I've been to about a dozen in the area) which doesn't stress martial application and competitive push hands and/or free sparring. The only non-martial (health/spirituality-based) Tai Chi Chuan I've seen taught has been in small groups, mostly among the elderly. Perhaps that's unique to my location, though.


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20 Dec 2016 09:43 #269045 by Tellahane
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I've thought about jumping in some tai chi classes around me, my only problem is the days I work one week are the days I'm off the next week and visa versa so these "weekly" classes that run for 9 weeks or 3 months at a time I would miss every other class, and they aren't usually to fond about that. I'm trying another place now to see if they have a way of working some extra time before or after or something where I could attend and work around my schedule.

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