Sex Talk

This might benefit from its own category on the forum. A Sex and Sexuality section in the forum. For practical purposes, that could be the method of keeping the young out. I do wish they could participate in a useful discussion of the topics, but consent remains an issue.

It would be an interesting test. Are we, as a community, mature enough to not let this devolve?

There was more uproar when I started the rant thread. I feel the community is trustworthy and we should proceed as described.

Cabur Senaar wrote: This might benefit from its own category on the forum. A Sex and Sexuality section in the forum. For practical purposes, that could be the method of keeping the young out. I do wish they could participate in a useful discussion of the topics, but consent remains an issue.

It would be an interesting test. Are we, as a community, mature enough to not let this devolve?

I like the idea of a separate section in the forum.

We could have a section for fully open discussion and maybe a special thread for anonymously posted concerns for those who are still not completely comfortable yet

as for the idea of "family friendly" i feel that the internet being what it is, the "family friendly" obligation is best met by being respectful when we discuss topics
rather than by ignoring topics because they are uncomfortable

and anyway, not everyones family is friendly, and we ourselves might in some instances be the most trustworthy source a person has

i mean, here at least people with questions will find honesty, real world experience, and a respect for dignity

while i understand the concern for privacy and i am not arguing against it, as a matter of principle so to speak, i would actually consider it a community service to the internet itself to address sexuality issues from jedi perspectives

OB1Shinobi wrote: as for the idea of "family friendly" i feel that the internet being what it is, the "family friendly" obligation is best met by being respectful when we discuss topics
rather than by ignoring topics because they are uncomfortable

The question isn't about people feeling uncomfortable. It is about legal limits and the fact that this church is restricted to legal obligations. There are minors on this forum and legally will look bad and be targeted by very upset parents who thought this place was safe for their minor to browse and instead is getting sexual advice from strangers

i dont have children and im not educated on the administration side of things, so im assuming there is some information that i am not aware of, which i ought to be in order to keep up with this particular turn of the conversation

my thoughts were

1 - if a parent doesnt believe their kids are old enough to be introduced to the topic of sex, then they should not let them watch tv or search the web to begin with?

and

2 - doesnt totjo have a designated minors area, and doesnt that meet the legal requirements?

besides the fact that its often the kids themselves who need the information anyway, if a minor deliberately leaves the "minors" area then doesnt that mean that they chose to enter in the "adult" area - where we respectfully (it is hoped) discuss adult issues anyway?

i want to be respectful towards families wishes, and i do see the importance of good taste, but if it comes to a choice between sheltering children at the expense of offering counsel to older members who need it, or helping people who need it at the expense of sheltering children, then i would choose to help the ones who need it

the children are going to have to learn eventually, and this is a better place than many i could name

my thought is that the purpose of a church is not to protect anyone from difficult issues, but rather to help people cultivate the internal resources to understand and deal with the difficult issues in a healthy and effective way

maybe there is something im not aware of or not registering ? (i find that happens a lot lol)

is there some legal action that a parent might take against totjo for talking about sex, even in a section that is deliberately designated for adults?

I am not disagreeing with your opinions OB1Shinobi. I am simply saying that they are individual opinion

*Shrugs* Totjo can do whatever the heck it wants. I am just being respectful to what may be. Not my first rodio in sex ed forums, you would be surprised the kind of immaturity it attracts.

Trisskar wrote: I am not disagreeing with your opinions OB1Shinobi. I am simply saying that they are individual opinion

*Shrugs* Totjo can do whatever the heck it wants. I am just being respectful to what may be. Not my first rodio in sex ed forums, you would be surprised the kind of immaturity it attracts.

It's definitely a risk, but I think it's one that can be tested at least. If we try one and it brings out the crazy in us, we can always take it down and chalk it up to experience

im not seeing this as a disagreement, only an discussion and exchange of ideas

Trisskar wrote: you would be surprised the kind of immaturity it attracts.

i think this is probaby a very good point, and in all honesty it is one that i had not put all that much thought into

since you have personal experience to draw from, i think it would be short sighted not to ask for your input

and especially short sighted to casually dismiss it when offered

so, is there any specific advice you might have that could help keep us from opening a bigger can of worms than we might want to deal with?

OB1Shinobi wrote: im not seeing this as a disagreement, only an discussion and exchange of ideas

Trisskar wrote: you would be surprised the kind of immaturity it attracts.

i think this is probaby a very good point, and in all honesty it is one that i had not put all that much thought into

since you have personal experience to draw from, i think it would be short sighted not to ask for your input

and especially short sighted to casually dismiss it when offered

so, is there any specific advice you might have that could help keep us from opening a bigger can of worms than we might want to deal with?

* A separate Sub Forum
* Apprentice Only
* Educational Focus (No joking/goofing off with sexual play IE: RPG, Games, Jokes
* Master Participation IE: Masters broach the subject as part of Training Criteria (Not teaching material but opening the doors of communication)
* Trusted/Non Bias/Non Trigger Happy Moderation Control (That is not already busy)

Would be a couple of my suggestions