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20 Mar 2016 19:32 #234698
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in the above videos they talk about reps and rep ranges - like they will say "do eight reps"
that doesnt mean you put 5 lbs of weight and lift it 8 times and think "im a beast!" lol
it means that you put an amount on the bar that you can lift 8 times but not 9 times
thats the 8 rep range
or 8-10 reps would mean that you can lift the weight 8 times, or nine times, or maybe you can just barely push out 10 reps, but not 11 reps - you would fail before completing the 11th rep
this is called RM or Rep Max , and sometimes you will see it spelled out like that
a 1RM would be whatever the amount of weight is that you can lift it once with proper form, but could not lift again and a 10rm would be the amount you can lift ten times proper form but not 11 times
that doesnt mean you put 5 lbs of weight and lift it 8 times and think "im a beast!" lol
it means that you put an amount on the bar that you can lift 8 times but not 9 times
thats the 8 rep range
or 8-10 reps would mean that you can lift the weight 8 times, or nine times, or maybe you can just barely push out 10 reps, but not 11 reps - you would fail before completing the 11th rep
this is called RM or Rep Max , and sometimes you will see it spelled out like that
a 1RM would be whatever the amount of weight is that you can lift it once with proper form, but could not lift again and a 10rm would be the amount you can lift ten times proper form but not 11 times
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11 Apr 2016 00:47 - 11 Apr 2016 00:48 #237382
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So, I'm right with you as a scrawny dude. But typically, if you're looking to start doing free weights the first thing you need is a gym buddy. A gym buddy is awesome because he/she can spot you doing free weights. My roommate and I workout like this (been going a month and seeing some decent results):
Buy good preworkout and good whey protein so you see max gains (Vitamin Shoppe is affordable and high quality.)
Day 1, Chest and Tris:
4 sets flat bench (10 reps if you can each set)
4 sets incline bench (same reps for everything, if you can of course)
4 sets decline bench
4 sets of dumbbell bench/chest fly combo
4 sets of triceps extensions (machine)
4 sets of overhead dumbbell thingies (I don't remember what they're called, but they murder your tris.)
4 sets wire machine pulldowns
3-4 sets to 100 of a weighted abs machine
Optional: 4 sets of skull crushers
Day 2, Back and bis:
4 super sets of lat pull downs (wide grip, close grip and chin up grip for 10 reps each exercise)
4 sets of seated rows
4 sets of lower back
4 sets of hammer curls
4 sets of wire curls
4 sets of a bicep machine
15-30 minutes of cardio
Day 3, shoulders:
4 sets of overhead press (I like using a machine because I have bad shoulders)
4 sets of shrugs (can use dumbbell or bar)
4 sets of front and side raises
100 weighted crunches
Day 4, Leg Day (worst day ever) :
4 sets leg press
4 sets calf raises
4 sets of hamstring curls
4 sets of gobblet squat
10 minutes or 50 floors on the stair stepper
For leg day you can also do deadlifts, back squat, front squat, hack squat and other squat exercises. But you really have to watch your form because you can hurt yourself. When I squat I use a Smith machine so I have less chance of getting hurt.
Anyway, I hope this helps a little. Having a gym buddy is everything because it motivates you to put out. Before I had a gym buddy, I would just go to hit the heavy bag for an hour. So it helps if you have someone to keep you on track.
Buy good preworkout and good whey protein so you see max gains (Vitamin Shoppe is affordable and high quality.)
Day 1, Chest and Tris:
4 sets flat bench (10 reps if you can each set)
4 sets incline bench (same reps for everything, if you can of course)
4 sets decline bench
4 sets of dumbbell bench/chest fly combo
4 sets of triceps extensions (machine)
4 sets of overhead dumbbell thingies (I don't remember what they're called, but they murder your tris.)
4 sets wire machine pulldowns
3-4 sets to 100 of a weighted abs machine
Optional: 4 sets of skull crushers
Day 2, Back and bis:
4 super sets of lat pull downs (wide grip, close grip and chin up grip for 10 reps each exercise)
4 sets of seated rows
4 sets of lower back
4 sets of hammer curls
4 sets of wire curls
4 sets of a bicep machine
15-30 minutes of cardio
Day 3, shoulders:
4 sets of overhead press (I like using a machine because I have bad shoulders)
4 sets of shrugs (can use dumbbell or bar)
4 sets of front and side raises
100 weighted crunches
Day 4, Leg Day (worst day ever) :
4 sets leg press
4 sets calf raises
4 sets of hamstring curls
4 sets of gobblet squat
10 minutes or 50 floors on the stair stepper
For leg day you can also do deadlifts, back squat, front squat, hack squat and other squat exercises. But you really have to watch your form because you can hurt yourself. When I squat I use a Smith machine so I have less chance of getting hurt.
Anyway, I hope this helps a little. Having a gym buddy is everything because it motivates you to put out. Before I had a gym buddy, I would just go to hit the heavy bag for an hour. So it helps if you have someone to keep you on track.
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11 May 2016 19:25 #240868
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its hard to find credible sources who will give any kind of time line for muscle development
this guy gives an estimate - whether you like it or not lol i dont know but it at least allows you to conceptualize what youre getting into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_wy8tLSbjs
this guy gives an estimate - whether you like it or not lol i dont know but it at least allows you to conceptualize what youre getting into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_wy8tLSbjs
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11 May 2016 21:52 #240884
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The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
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as a pro wrestler you'll probably want to work the hell out of the "vanity muscles"...don't do that....work on functional muscles or you'll be prone to injury...
there is no definitive time frame that can be offered as there are so many variables...diet, genetics, routine, etc...if you don't have to go to a job then you can spend a few hours a day at the gym, which could speed up results, you can try the insanity or p90x workouts as they generate results in around 90 days...and they don't require any expensive equipment...but again diet and genetics will factor in as well...
there is no definitive time frame that can be offered as there are so many variables...diet, genetics, routine, etc...if you don't have to go to a job then you can spend a few hours a day at the gym, which could speed up results, you can try the insanity or p90x workouts as they generate results in around 90 days...and they don't require any expensive equipment...but again diet and genetics will factor in as well...
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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To gain strength and muscle fast try the Stronglifts 5x5 program. Simple, fast, functional.
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21 Aug 2016 17:01 #253233
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04 Sep 2016 17:41 #255824
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OP are you still around, i am really curious how things have been going for you?
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I second this, or any kind of strength-based workout. Where you have strength, you'll surely have the muscle there. In nine months, you could make some significant muscle gains. I'd start with strength, then on to power, then hypertrophy. Not only would you have the strength and size to say that you actually train, but you'll have enough mass to make your "vanity" muscles appear bigger, once you start hypertrophy. A 5x5 program would get you started on strength, 5/3/1 would help you with power with strength, and if you want those muscles to be more defined, choose a hypertrophic workout from bodybuilding.com or something.
Diet plays a bigger role in this than many will realize. If you aren't eating enough, you won't grow very big, no matter how much you train. Fuel your body and push your strength limits; you'll see results if you discipline yourself to stick to what you're doing. If you get discouraged, don't quit. There are many resources out there for support in your endeavors.
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MadMage wrote: To gain strength and muscle fast try the Stronglifts 5x5 program. Simple, fast, functional.
I second this, or any kind of strength-based workout. Where you have strength, you'll surely have the muscle there. In nine months, you could make some significant muscle gains. I'd start with strength, then on to power, then hypertrophy. Not only would you have the strength and size to say that you actually train, but you'll have enough mass to make your "vanity" muscles appear bigger, once you start hypertrophy. A 5x5 program would get you started on strength, 5/3/1 would help you with power with strength, and if you want those muscles to be more defined, choose a hypertrophic workout from bodybuilding.com or something.
Diet plays a bigger role in this than many will realize. If you aren't eating enough, you won't grow very big, no matter how much you train. Fuel your body and push your strength limits; you'll see results if you discipline yourself to stick to what you're doing. If you get discouraged, don't quit. There are many resources out there for support in your endeavors.
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04 Sep 2016 20:59 #255857
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I love reading this title. I'm a naturally slim (skinny) dude. After a divorce I wanted to gain muscle mass. I can Def tell you this...you are going to get a lot of plans from many different sources. It will be a lot of brain work trying to decide what plan to use. From one ex scrawny guy to (a similar frame guy) I can tell you this is what I did...
Got a checkup before starting any routines. Make sure you are in good shape to start.
Treat it like your lessons here...I researched and got an understanding on how muscles grow, how muscles build, how muscles strengthen.
Get a proper diet. You're gonna need food and fuel for your workouts/muscles and honestly the more you eat (whether its healtho or non healtho food)...the bigger you're gonna get...it's just wise to be sure you're eating food thats gonna be good to your system. I also researched calories/food energy. (3,000 calories equal one pound...) I ate more calories than I was eating...I upped it to close to 4,500 calories a day. I also picked up a mass gainer (protein shake). This helped add calories and vitamins to my daily meal plan.
I picked exercises that targeted larger muscle groups. (Back was priority for me) my neck and trapazoids grew fast and gave me a more masculine look. WORK YOUR LEGS. 9 months is plenty of time.
But, more importantly...stick with a routine and don't skip meals.
Sincerely,
One sexy body Jedi
Got a checkup before starting any routines. Make sure you are in good shape to start.
Treat it like your lessons here...I researched and got an understanding on how muscles grow, how muscles build, how muscles strengthen.
Get a proper diet. You're gonna need food and fuel for your workouts/muscles and honestly the more you eat (whether its healtho or non healtho food)...the bigger you're gonna get...it's just wise to be sure you're eating food thats gonna be good to your system. I also researched calories/food energy. (3,000 calories equal one pound...) I ate more calories than I was eating...I upped it to close to 4,500 calories a day. I also picked up a mass gainer (protein shake). This helped add calories and vitamins to my daily meal plan.
I picked exercises that targeted larger muscle groups. (Back was priority for me) my neck and trapazoids grew fast and gave me a more masculine look. WORK YOUR LEGS. 9 months is plenty of time.
But, more importantly...stick with a routine and don't skip meals.
Sincerely,
One sexy body Jedi
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06 Sep 2016 18:31 #256146
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I am late to the game, but I would say that cutting is your best shot at looking jacked. If you want to pack on mass, by all means do it, you can't get too big in my book. However, if you want to appear badass, ripped, and have 9mos, like 3 now, then I'd saying shaving a few points for the BF instead of bulking is going to help you. IMHO without knowing your program and diet and history, you are talking 2 years to pack on enough muscle (10-15lbs) at your size to make you look huge. If you're a newb you might gain more. Fingers crossed you are one of those gifted mofos who can add 10-12lbs a year and cut at the same time despite being 5yrs into lifting.
also maybe kinda of interest: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
also maybe kinda of interest: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html
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