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Acording to ''TheVigilantChristian'' We are a part of Illuminati Spirutiality
I agree, one who seeks a false answer will do just that.Connor L. wrote: I'm never offended by somebody who pokes fun at my faith or by people who persecute me (not that anybody has... but if they did).
So, let them call us Illuminati. It's kind of cool, anyway.
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I could only take about two minutes, I'm wiping the tears from my eyes. I think I cracked a rib....breathe...,
"O Great Spirit, Help me always to speak the truth quietly, to listen with an open mind when others speak, and to remember the peace that may be found in silence"
Kaylee: How come you don't care where you're going?
Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.
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Well, obviously, you can make this stuff up. :woohoo:
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"O Great Spirit, Help me always to speak the truth quietly, to listen with an open mind when others speak, and to remember the peace that may be found in silence"
Kaylee: How come you don't care where you're going?
Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.
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he say that thousands of children vanish every year and are eaten by these draconians
the explanation is that they were dumped here (here being our dimension not our planet) because theyre too tough to wipe out completely but they were a nusiance to the other groups because of their natural size strength intelligence psychic ability and desire to control and dominate others
if i understand correctly he claims that the pleadians originated on a planet called lyra and that we are the same species but we are much less evolved - i think his assertion is that we were transplanted here for some or other reason but that may not be correct -i distinctly remember him saying that we have genetic memories (within our dna) of many other species or races
our moon is an artificial moon which was made from the material of some other planet and put into its orbit for use as an observation base (to observe us)
im not sure who the observers are because he refers to more than twenty different alien races
some which he refers to are
siriuns
andromedans
draconians
pleadiens
greys (they have a more precise name thats like fifteen feet long to spell out)
ghesia intelligence
the orion group
the story he gives is that it was alien influence which was behind our entire caste system
that in their civilizations they have systems of royalty - priests - warriors - workers and that our adoption of this system was because of their interference
he also says that we are naturally vegetarian and that it was draconian (i think he said draconian) influence which led to us eating meat
he claims that alien races have negatively affected us in many ways, another of which was by selectively introducing advanced technology to us which we did/do not have the evolutionary maturity to use responsibly,
they are the reason, he says, that we have left behind our essentially agricultural nature for an emphasis on a techno-cratic lifesyle which is extremely unhealthy for us as a species
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that had we been left alone, we would eventually come to understand these sciences on our own
but we would have done so in a way that is more organic and proportional to the maturity of our evolutionary development
the american government he claims was given these technologies in exchange for the right to abduct and experiment on humans without interference
he claims to know this as a result of direct interaction with an alien race who selected him as an intermediary or sort of commentator i guess who learns from the alien group and shares what he learns with the rest of us
now, besides being obviously crazy, you might be wondering what this guy collier and his alpha draconians ect has to do with the topic at hand
well, in the midst of all of this hoopla mr collier insists that our free will gives us a spiritual sovereignty which we do not fully appreciate
he says that love and fear are in an epic battle within the consciousness of the entire galaxy and this is the reason for the nefariousness of other species and ourselves
he says that humanities biggest enemies are not alien races but humans who sell out their own people for power or security or wealth and that the solution is for us all as humans to see each other as one race and to align with love in defiance of fear
first love of the self then love of the human race as a whole and then love of the planet
now.ive watched video footage of him in interview on this subject and in the course of figuring out what i think of him i had to consider that he really believed that he had been abducted or selected and communicated with alien races
the understanding which hit me when i did this was that if i stop looking at his ideas as being true or accurate or legitimate and instead i take it all as symbology, as a mythology, then i come to the realization that the mythology he is describing is quite sophisticated and functional
even eloquent in its own right
he touches on truths which are as ubiquitious as they are profound
and since we are a group who have made rather free with mythology ourselves i figure we could look at other mythologies in this spirit, even if they happen to put us in a place we know is silly
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the ALPHA DRACONAINS
ah, crap....my cover's been blown...
initiating global mind wipe protocol :silly:
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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i used to tease my wiccan friends by asking if babies were better with garlic or lemon pepper
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RyuJin wrote: zealots like this are why i view christianity with distrust
That's sort of the problem. People see stuff like this as think all Christians are like that. I'm a Christian and I still take offense to people calling Jediism evil or a cult.
Just as not all Muslims are terrorists, not all Christians are crazy conspiracy theorists that think Satan is in silly things like energy drinks and sci-fi movies.
It's just stupid...
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Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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OB1Shinobi wrote: I KNEW IT!!
i used to tease my wiccan friends by asking if babies were better with garlic or lemon pepper
I know this thread is old, but I had to comment on this.
They're better with garlic and some cracked black pepper.
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"EXPOSING EVIL & PREACHING THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST"
That's all I have to see to close it and I love conspiracies, well, real ones not ones that obsess about a few hundred year old secret society from Germany that's used by idiots to then blame and hate Freemasonry acting like Jim Carry in The Number 23 movie.
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In doing some reading this morning, if memory serves correctly, it is in the maxims that talks about not concerning oneself with exterior criticism or praise: it is what we know that holds the meaning.
As it is with such commonality in general society, to criticize or even demonize what isn't known or understood by far too many within our population, we will undoubtedly be seeing a number of these such things as time progresses.
Seek to act with virtue and benevolence, and let our actions define whom it is we are as individuals and a collective.
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Lightstrider wrote: "THE VIGILANT CHRISTIAN"
"EXPOSING EVIL & PREACHING THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST"
That's all I have to see to close it
amen to that....pretty much anytime i see any combination of the words christian, exposing evil, good news of jesus, yadda, yadda, yadda i tune out...it has been my experience that those words never precede anything resembling acceptance, tolerance, peace, or love...
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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RyuJin wrote:
Lightstrider wrote: "THE VIGILANT CHRISTIAN"
"EXPOSING EVIL & PREACHING THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST"
That's all I have to see to close it
amen to that....pretty much anytime i see any combination of the words christian, exposing evil, good news of jesus, yadda, yadda, yadda i tune out...it has been my experience that those words never precede anything resembling acceptance, tolerance, peace, or love...
yeah,its really sad
theres a lot of "jesus" out in lutz (where my mother lives) but not a lot of forgiveness lol
and its especially sad becauze jesus said some cool stuff
anyway, it helps me remember that im glad to be able to interact here with you and the rest of the temple
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A sign of our philosophy growing more adult, in my opinion, will be more chaos in media. Better educate ourselves while such thrusts are funny. Structure and trust are definitely a good resource on their own.
By the way, if we are secretly illuminati, I want my share of sacred cookies. Illuminati do have cookies, don't they? ) What's the point of conspiracy otherwise? )
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Here we find truth. Here we find solutions. Here we are equal. My path is as important as a member of our council as is a new member. We are alive, regardless of those who see us as enemies. We find answers where excuses used to be. We become in charge of our own actions rather than blame or blame shift. Yet there IS still free will. I am glad to be Jedi. It is sad when one must make others inferior to feel correct,Or to sound like it. Subject wise all I heard was finger pointing how they r evil and I'm right.
Not the kind of leading I want... not the kind of people who seem to be the sort I want to be around or even have my wife and son around. My own opinion
There is never any excuse to generalize. To say all Christians think this way is not valid. I know many Christians who would give the shirt off their back for complete strangers. They practice what is in their own faith. They are the blessed and rightfully so. It is a shame people think this mentality is heaven sent.
There are many organizations that say we r right and every one is wrong let me show u.
I'm glad to be a part of the one who adds help and time rather than...well... name calling and hate.
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