Why I Believe in god(s)

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30 Jul 2014 16:10 #153952 by
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This is for Scott....

I believe there is more beyond what we think is our world/reality. Weither it is a supreme(s) being (and I'm sure there are something like that somewhere in the cosmose) or a greater inteligence/organization it is simple arrogant to think we are the end of the line. Maybe they are aliens that visited and we are just a DNA breeding experiment.

God, gods, goddess,the givers of life, which I think may be more correct, a no sex omnipotent. I believe in a superior life force and it makes me feel warm and cozie. :)

I aspire to feel the connection to it as a source for me to draw on and live/grow towards as I make my transition some day (no hurry though) and be merge with. Spirit, emotion and thought transends to that state(s) allowing me faint traces of other realities.

Call it god. I'm OK with that.

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30 Jul 2014 16:26 - 30 Jul 2014 16:27 #153958 by Wescli Wardest
@ Rickie The Grey...

I have had several of those same thoughts many times before. It's cool to see someone else talk about them. :D

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Maybe that means I'm not crazy? :ohmy:
Or we could be the same kind of crazy!?!? :blink:

hahahahhaha :woohoo:

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30 Jul 2014 16:50 - 30 Jul 2014 16:51 #153963 by
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Same kind of crazy. :woohoo: :)

I hope/wish more people would talk about stuff like that.
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30 Jul 2014 17:24 #153972 by Jestor
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I feel it guys, I'll join in the "cozy-fest"...

I just call it 'Being', or 'awareness'...

Being 'awake'...

But some might call it God....

On walk-about...

Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


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30 Jul 2014 17:37 #153975 by
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Rickie The Grey wrote: This is for Scott....

I believe there is more beyond what we think is our world/reality. Weither it is a supreme(s) being (and I'm sure there are something like that somewhere in the cosmose) or a greater inteligence/organization it is simple arrogant to think we are the end of the line. Maybe they are aliens that visited and we are just a DNA breeding experiment.

God, gods, goddess,the givers of life, which I think may be more correct, a no sex omnipotent. I believe in a superior life force and it makes me feel warm and cozie. :)

I aspire to feel the connection to it as a source for me to draw on and live/grow towards as I make my transition some day (no hurry though) and be merge with. Spirit, emotion and thought transends to that state(s) allowing me faint traces of other realities.

Call it god. I'm OK with that.


Interesting.

But lets take a scenario please.
In this scenario we are going to assume these thing to be true.
1: Aliens are real.
2: Aliens have visited the earth
3: Aliens created humans by altering DNA from APES lets say.

My Question is this.?
/ What created them aliens?

Same scenario above could be given to them.
Cycle it again and again and again,
but sooner or later you come to the 1st race.

/What created the 1st race?

It evoled.
OK No problem

Follow the logic backwards.
Through all the ideas of the universe.
You still have to come to a point where you have to ask

WHERE DID IT ALL COME FROM?
WHERE DID THE STUFF THAT ALL CAME FROM COME FROM?

Those two questions are additional reasons I believe in God.

The normal athiest response to this question is one of two things.
I don't know, or
Well where did god come from? (90% of the time said sarcastically.)
From nothing.
Well what is nothing? ( said even more sarcastically.)
Nothing!

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30 Jul 2014 17:58 #153979 by Proteus
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The trap we get into with the whole "where did this come from" is the assumption that "things" exist.

There are no "things". There is only energy (a happening) which we perceive as "things".

Also is the illusion of linear cause and effect. One way we know cause and effect as an actual fallacy is the fact that no matter how far we go, it logically has no end. In the illusion's very nature, it cannot end to us. Therefore, there is no "first this happened, then that happened". That is only an effect of the limitations of our perception of time. Things are not linear, only our perception is.

All things are "happening at once", and in fact, in such an instantaneously singular point of time/space (maybe? i don't know what to call it), that in fact, it is also Not happening as well.

One other thing... I think the thread's title is more apt to say "About believing in God", since the OP is not explaining why you believe in god, only that you do, and that's that. :P

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30 Jul 2014 18:41 - 30 Jul 2014 18:55 #153984 by
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The normal athiest response to this question is one of two things.

I don't know


I find this is the most accurate and honest answer really.

It takes alot of humility to say I dont know.

However, that doesnt mean we wont ever know, or cant know.

We didnt know alot of things at one point.

Still, that does not give credence to the "God of the gaps", as that is a receding shore of faith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFALPsI6AM
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30 Jul 2014 19:16 #153988 by
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There may be a god...I don't fault anyone for believing there might be. I just haven't seen any evidence that's convincing to me that there is a personal god that gives two craps about what i or others do.

Nature, the Cosmos: that is my god and most of us at this Temple call it the Force.

If society wants to believe in a personal god that's fine by me. Just don't tell me what that personal god wants me to do or pay to please him. :)

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30 Jul 2014 19:27 #153990 by
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This video illustrates my inherent problems with belief God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlrV7SoPCo

Mostly though, like Tyson, I really dont think about God, or Gods very often.

I just dont really think of it....

Does that make me shallow, haha.

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30 Jul 2014 19:29 - 30 Jul 2014 19:31 #153991 by
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Thing is, we can't know for certain, right now. I'm more of an agnostic atheist in that I don't know if there is or is not a god, nor will I live my life as if there is one; a freethinker, I call myself. That is until I find it undeniably obvious. I've often struggled with this as a child because I knew about cause and effect and was told that god caused everything. It led me to ask what caused god, and what caused that cause, and so on. It goes on ad infinitum. I even wondered if god had parents (lol). I don't know the answer, yet, and I won't pretend to know any more than I do. It's not ineffable, it just hasn't yet been described or illustrated in an adequate way. Or, perhaps it has and we just don't think it's there, hiding in plain sight. I think about this, sometimes, and I don't think I'll stop until I find something that satiates my curiosity.
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