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07 Dec 2013 15:09 - 07 Dec 2013 15:11 #127546 by Manu
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I really haven't kept up with the news, but I read in the last couple of weeks that new research has determined Jesus was "made up" by the Romans to control the Jews. Jews were at the time expecting a warrior Mesiah, someone who would lead a military revolution against the Romans, so it made sense to make up Jesus to shift the paradygm from military revolution to a revolution of jewish caste, which in turn would weaken the Jews in power.

So, while not a certainty, this could signify that much of Christianity is built on fiction. Does that invalidate its message?

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The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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07 Dec 2013 15:19 #127547 by RyuJin
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Exactly....it's the message that matters, unfortunately the message is getting lost in the quagmire of self importance and politics that has become the current form of many old religions...


And I still hold that pope benedict looks like palpatine :evil:

And while not catholic or christian I do like this new pope...the latest news is that he likes to dress in regular priest robes and sneak out of the vatican to minister the homeless/impoverished....

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07 Dec 2013 22:34 #127600 by
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Manu wrote: I really haven't kept up with the news, but I read in the last couple of weeks that new research has determined Jesus was "made up" by the Romans to control the Jews. Jews were at the time expecting a warrior Mesiah, someone who would lead a military revolution against the Romans, so it made sense to make up Jesus to shift the paradygm from military revolution to a revolution of jewish caste, which in turn would weaken the Jews in power.

So, while not a certainty, this could signify that much of Christianity is built on fiction. Does that invalidate its message?


Yeah, a book tour with no scholarly source or evidence unless you pay.

I did a thing on this with a friend of mine, and I think I covered in on this site.

Now I ain't a christian, lol. But I do know my history and archaeology.

The shit you're referring too was worse than that utter crap zietgiest

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08 Dec 2013 22:49 #127680 by Manu
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sidvkili wrote:

Manu wrote: I really haven't kept up with the news, but I read in the last couple of weeks that new research has determined Jesus was "made up" by the Romans to control the Jews. Jews were at the time expecting a warrior Mesiah, someone who would lead a military revolution against the Romans, so it made sense to make up Jesus to shift the paradygm from military revolution to a revolution of jewish caste, which in turn would weaken the Jews in power.

So, while not a certainty, this could signify that much of Christianity is built on fiction. Does that invalidate its message?


Yeah, a book tour with no scholarly source or evidence unless you pay.

I did a thing on this with a friend of mine, and I think I covered in on this site.

Now I ain't a christian, lol. But I do know my history and archaeology.

The shit you're referring too was worse than that utter crap zietgiest


Could you provide a link to where you covered it on this site?

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09 Dec 2013 08:31 - 09 Dec 2013 08:32 #127725 by
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I know what he's talking about!
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10 Dec 2013 13:40 #127953 by Whyte Horse
I saw something someone said somewhere like "it doesn't matter if it's fiction if you believe it". I believe it was a PhD Psychologist who was studying DMT and it's effect on people. I guess the fact that people on DMT experience something that transforms their life is what matters, and not that it's not real. Does that make sense? Anyway you can see the documentary here:


Anyway, as far as this relating to Jediism, someone said earlier in this thread that you might benefit from reading Joseph Campbell's myth/hero seris... I agree completely. After you've done that, the answer to your question can best be expressed in a song:

Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.

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