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Reincarnation Thoughts
05 Dec 2009 15:42 #27030
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Just to throw another concept into the arena - given 'time' is a human invention and concept - should it then not be the case if everything is cyclic in nature - sooner or later - were going to 'bump' into the same 'spirits'.
Also - if the human population is ever increasing (as it is at present) where to the 'new' spirits come from? are we getting lots of blank sheets with some 'recycled' ones thrown in?
Also - if the human population is ever increasing (as it is at present) where to the 'new' spirits come from? are we getting lots of blank sheets with some 'recycled' ones thrown in?
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05 Dec 2009 17:45 #27035
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:Reincarnation Thoughts
if you look at the hindu concept of reincarnation we don't always come back in the same form ie human...some come back as bugs, or other \"lower animals\" karma dictates the form you return in...just a thought
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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05 Dec 2009 18:05 #27037
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Yup - which poses another issue in my little grey cell - if folk 'remember' being a knight or samurai (all the usual predictable things) then why does no one remember being a mouse or chicken or dog or t-rex....
Just a weird observation of mine :lol:
MTFBWY - A
Just a weird observation of mine :lol:
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05 Dec 2009 18:41 #27039
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:Reincarnation Thoughts
lol cuz my brain wasn't big enough to hold memories..(t-rex peabrain):laugh:
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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07 Dec 2009 14:13 #27042
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In my last life - I was a hamster - ill tempered, short sighted and slept all day, ate all night and hoarded what I liked best :lol:
BTW - I doubt t-rex was such a peabrain - very few if any mid to top ranked predators are/were dumb and while olde rex wasnt the biggest hunter around - (s)he sure had the tools for the job
BTW - I doubt t-rex was such a peabrain - very few if any mid to top ranked predators are/were dumb and while olde rex wasnt the biggest hunter around - (s)he sure had the tools for the job
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07 Dec 2009 19:38 #27043
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:Reincarnation Thoughts
most predators rarely are dimwitted....they simply get viewed that way....wouldn't it be hilarious to travel back in time and discover that dino's were rocket scientists...and died cuz they were too smart for their own good
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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08 Dec 2009 19:34 #27055
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caused global warming by using jets too often and rockets for unnecessary things...
the mind boggles :lol:
the mind boggles :lol:
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21 Feb 2010 01:15 #28973
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i absolutely loved reading this as a Jedi and a nerd! this has to be one of the best ways of explaining reincarnation i have heard for a long time
thanks for taking the time to post this up
thanks for taking the time to post this up
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11 Feb 2012 13:58 #50080
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Reincarnation is recognize as a "fact" in many religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, shamanism, otherkin/starseed movements etc.). They all have similar explainations to it.
In most, reincarnation is a process where the souls can achieve themself when one life is'nt enaugh. To reincarn ourself to get better as individual, to pay our karma and to enlight ourself as to purge our soul from our inperfections before to finaly accessing to the Nirvana. But some souls are ment to stay as spiritual guides for the others, as the Dalai Lama.
In shamanism, the Gaia principle is related to reicarnation aswell. Gaia as Earth's spiritual entity give souls the the new borns before collecting them after their death, to expend Earth's collective knowledge. In shamanism, all beings (plants, animals, humans even rocks and rivers) are connect to the Earth's soul. As it, sometime, a soul might be "recall" as living being to evolve and to gather knowledge as to help other beings to evolve further.
For otherkins, souls from various creatures (mythical, animal as spiritual entities) are incarning themself in human vessels. To explore humanity, to evolve as entity, as to give to humans a view of the world who'snt human'like. They generaly think of themself as if a mistake occured on the "souls chain line", like if their souls been put into a human vessels by mistake while believing that it happened for a good reason. Most otherkins believing in the "Veil fall" an event where the veil seperating this realm from others will fall, they think of themself as Earth guardians/protectors.
For starseed (and many "light workers"), aliens and high entities (light)souls reincarn themself on Earth to show their light path, to awaken human's consciousness and to elevate human's vibrations. Starseed do feel a connection to the stars while not feeling at home on Earth, like strangers to Earthling's ways. Most starseed believing in an event where Earth's vibration will be elevated as they think to be here to help humans for this transition.
In most(if not all) beliefs/religions there's sacred texts where souls are call back and forth in one (or more) vessel after their death (Jesus, apocalypse avenment, Buddha, Dalai Lama, Krisna, Osiris etc...)
In near death experiences, peoples leaving their body, floating over it. Sciences can't say that souls don't exist as there's always sceptics who'll always found reasons to explain mystical phenomenons. Many things should stay mystical as they are. No matter if all views are true or not, if someone believe in something and it helping him to get a better person, as to help others... it's a good faith.
In most, reincarnation is a process where the souls can achieve themself when one life is'nt enaugh. To reincarn ourself to get better as individual, to pay our karma and to enlight ourself as to purge our soul from our inperfections before to finaly accessing to the Nirvana. But some souls are ment to stay as spiritual guides for the others, as the Dalai Lama.
In shamanism, the Gaia principle is related to reicarnation aswell. Gaia as Earth's spiritual entity give souls the the new borns before collecting them after their death, to expend Earth's collective knowledge. In shamanism, all beings (plants, animals, humans even rocks and rivers) are connect to the Earth's soul. As it, sometime, a soul might be "recall" as living being to evolve and to gather knowledge as to help other beings to evolve further.
For otherkins, souls from various creatures (mythical, animal as spiritual entities) are incarning themself in human vessels. To explore humanity, to evolve as entity, as to give to humans a view of the world who'snt human'like. They generaly think of themself as if a mistake occured on the "souls chain line", like if their souls been put into a human vessels by mistake while believing that it happened for a good reason. Most otherkins believing in the "Veil fall" an event where the veil seperating this realm from others will fall, they think of themself as Earth guardians/protectors.
For starseed (and many "light workers"), aliens and high entities (light)souls reincarn themself on Earth to show their light path, to awaken human's consciousness and to elevate human's vibrations. Starseed do feel a connection to the stars while not feeling at home on Earth, like strangers to Earthling's ways. Most starseed believing in an event where Earth's vibration will be elevated as they think to be here to help humans for this transition.
In most(if not all) beliefs/religions there's sacred texts where souls are call back and forth in one (or more) vessel after their death (Jesus, apocalypse avenment, Buddha, Dalai Lama, Krisna, Osiris etc...)
In near death experiences, peoples leaving their body, floating over it. Sciences can't say that souls don't exist as there's always sceptics who'll always found reasons to explain mystical phenomenons. Many things should stay mystical as they are. No matter if all views are true or not, if someone believe in something and it helping him to get a better person, as to help others... it's a good faith.
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18 Sep 2013 15:19 #118741
by Lykeios Little Raven
“Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.” -Zhuangzi
“Though, as the crusade presses on, I find myself altogether incapable of staying here in saftey while others shed their blood for such a noble and just cause. For surely must the Almighty be with us even in the sundering of our nation. Our fight is for freedom, for liberty, and for all the principles upon which that aforementioned nation was built.” - Patrick “Madman of Galway” O'Dell
Replied by Lykeios Little Raven on topic Reincarnation Thoughts
I used to have a specifically worked out idea of how I believed reincarnation worked. I even wrote it all down in an essay format. It was all fairly scientific and Jedi-like (this before I was a Jedi) in its mechanics. Now, however, I've abandoned that as I've come to realize more and more that what happens after we die really is not relevant to current life. Whether reincarnation happens or not I don't know (though I do believe it does) and it really doesn't matter. If we dissolve into nothingness after death that's fine by me as it has no bearing on my current actions. I was always going to live my life to the fullest anyway because who really knows if we'll get another chance. Even if we do get second or third or hundredth chances, who's to say we'll know who we are and who we have been?
“Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.” -Zhuangzi
“Though, as the crusade presses on, I find myself altogether incapable of staying here in saftey while others shed their blood for such a noble and just cause. For surely must the Almighty be with us even in the sundering of our nation. Our fight is for freedom, for liberty, and for all the principles upon which that aforementioned nation was built.” - Patrick “Madman of Galway” O'Dell
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