MJ Hannigan

Firewolf wrote: I am wondering if Hannigan is able to have a conversation with anyone without having to resort to insult or petty attacks in order to reinforce his argument.

Of course he is. I've seen it many times. It's just, those are normal and aren't remembered. haha.

Can and certainly does. Passions run high when it comes to how we view the way. I have spoken with Mr. Hannigan Personally and he is indeed remorseful, and wanting to reestablish communication. He is willing to accept censure and move forward. However, he can and will speak for himself in these regards.

Instead of unification and consolidated direction, let us first strive for mutual inclusion. Us and them is not the way things should be. We should build on our commonalities first then, when our differences are not so raw, we can seek to bring our paths closer together.

Andy Spalding wrote: Can and certainly does. Passions run high when it comes to how we view the way. I have spoken with Mr. Hannigan Personally and he is indeed remorseful, and wanting to reestablish communication. He is willing to accept censure and move forward. However, he can and will speak for himself in these regards.

Instead of unification and consolidated direction, let us first strive for mutual inclusion. Us and them is not the way things should be. We should build on our commonalities first then, when our differences are not so raw, we can seek to bring our paths closer together.

From what I have seen and experienced, there are less differences than people seem to think, but so much noise about them and their labels, that the overwhelming parallels of our paths are often made to seem irrelevant in the drive to show one path as more "right" than another.

Passion about our paths, indeed. A virtue in my opinion. Avid undermining of the paths of other, is not passion.

I believe in compassion and second chances not only because it is right, but because I believe all people have the ability to grow.

I would ask though, how many times do you offer your hand for the same bite?

He's only remorseful because he can no longer use the temple for his promitional advertising. Let him cool his heels for a month, or two and then perhaps he will have truly learned something of value...

Brenna wrote: I would ask though, how many times do you offer your hand for same bite?

I am a Tyr's man. Through and through. I am the kind of guy that offers it till they bite it off. One Who gives till there is nothing left to give for that they deem worthy.

Then you are a better man than I Andy.

If I understand the mythology correctly, Tyr offered his hand in order to ensure that Fenrir was subdued. A sacrifice to protect the others from the wolf .

Perhaps also to protect the wolf from himself...

That question is weighted powerfully as who or what you view as the wolf.

I don't equate Hannigan as Fenris. This "community" and it's interactions are what bite me. Each and every Jedi is a tooth.

Andy Spalding wrote: That question is weighted powerfully as who or what you view as the wolf.

I don't equate Hannigan as Fenris. This "community" and it's interactions are what bite me. Each and every Jedi is a tooth.

No, I don't either. I feel that the behavior is the wolf, never a person. I guess I'm trying to understand it from your perspective.

Were it me, there is a limit to how many times I would allow something to bite me or others willfully. At some point, it is no longer a mistake, it becomes a choice.

If a Jedi, or many Jedi, bite, perhaps they should reconsider there position as a Jedi.