IMPORTANT: DOCTRINE UPDATE

Question. I am about to do the Breakdown portion of my IP and want to know if the council wants to add the 21 maxims to that analysis, or keep it the way it is.

Please add it...

It is now a part of the official doctrine...

We will ask folks to go back and do it if it is not completed as the other parts are...

Thanks for asking!

I will also be going back and suggesting it to those who have completed the IP, but are still awaiting Masters...

I might do it with the new doctrine, even though I HAVE a Master.

Ok. Good stuff. Thanks for the quick reply as well. I am looking forward to breaking that one down!!

Jestor wrote: Please add it...

It is now a part of the official doctrine...

We will ask folks to go back and do it if it is not completed as the other parts are...

Thanks for asking!

I will also be going back and suggesting it to those who have completed the IP, but are still awaiting Masters...

The 16 teachings are completely different as well...

No problem...

Remember, your journal is yours...

You can post pretty much what you like...

The maxim 'Humility' has been changed.

Old wrote: Humility: To have no ego.

New wrote: Humility: To accept the ego for what it is.

Akkarin wrote: The maxim 'Humility' has been changed.

Old wrote: Humility: To have no ego.

New wrote: Humility: To accept the ego for what it is.

I have often explained humility to others as "not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less." I'm not sure it's entirely accurate, but it helps get the gist of it across sometimes.

steamboat28 wrote:

Akkarin wrote: The maxim 'Humility' has been changed.

Old wrote: Humility: To have no ego.

New wrote: Humility: To accept the ego for what it is.

I have often explained humility to others as "not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less." I'm not sure it's entirely accurate, but it helps get the gist of it across sometimes.

this was more or less the point behind "Humility: To have no ego.", as opposed to what is generally understood of humility (the kind Nietzsche dislikes).
Egolessness is a core concept/virtue/goal in some religions: it is the rejection of the idea we are separate from the whole. For us it's the Force, for Buddhists it's anata, for sufis (kind of muslims) I don't remember if it is called anything but the idea is that the believer, the world and allah are all one...
And then there's samadhi meditation, which is about focusing one the subject (of meditation) so much that the mind is no longer separate from the subject: it has no ego.

This relates to old fashioned (2001 original maxim) humility how?
A Jedi isn't boastful of their actions, because while it would be accurate to say you are responsible for, say, feeding someone, it is not truly your action:
The Force made it inevitable (for example, there was someone to be fed in the first place), and the result isn't a change in you (your ego), but a change in the Force (the whole).
To have no ego is to understand this... Which is true humility, not the absolute refusal of materialism, or the denial of one's actions or place. This would be in violation of the "honesty" and "harmony" maxims.

I dissent.

If you know what the ego is, if you recognize it then it ceases to be. If you feel there's something to accept it's still with you.